I served in an armored brigade where every shot counted. I do not understand this artillery thing. It seems 99.999% of shells go anywhere but to the target. When I see them aiming their canon, there does not seem to be any precision anywhere? Leveling, adjusting, but it looks almost random, half aimed at best. What is going on what do I miss?
by Dense_Lengthiness_22
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Looks a bit scattershot, but maybe that’s considered a tight grouping for artillery. I wonder what sort of shell is responsible for most of those craters.
Could be poorly manufactured NK shells, I don’t know what sort of accuracy would be normal for a scene like this.
Artillery isn’t as simple as direct fire, you have many factors you need to dial in, weather like rain, wind (current and projected), propellant, accuracy of provided data, even how many shots the barrel has fired that day etc. It also depends on what you are firing for and where, fire for effect, suppression, rolling, timed, are you firing at a tree line and its defence? Or over and beyond them. You are doing all this by maybe not even ever seeing it all you may have is someone telling you “Grid 1234 tack 5678”
What you see in the picture is probably the result of days, weeks or months of exchange.
Those are most likely artillery shelling aimed at advancing enemy troops rather than a stationary target.
Yes? That’s how it looks firing at moving targets in the same area for weeks 🤷♂️
Meatwaves don’t stick to the road
Exit: zoom in and you’ll see those craters are on top of lots of different tracks left behind by armored vehicles. This is obvious a very contested area where troops and equipment are funneled over those fields
All I know is I’d hate to be the farmer that has to plough that field in the future.
And that my friends is the definition of “Russian Precision”.
Maybe mine clearing.
This is such an uninformed, silly post. If you don’t understand artillery, that’s fine and understandable, but then don’t waste time with this. Maybe ask a question and hope someone who does get it can come explain what you’re seeing. Your only other post is similarly ridiculous. “Why do all the armoured crew commanders not close their hatches when they’re fleeing for their lives? Operational security and equipment stewardship comes first and foremost”
Come on, man
Looks like a shitty PCB made by russians
You served in an armoured brigade (assuming modern western forces) where the most recent combat you may have served in was in Afghanistan. You had the support of modern technology, decades of mapped experience and forward operating guidance against armed farmers somewhat embedded in a known area.
Every shot counted because the variables were known and adjusted for. Shots coming in from that ridge line? Just delete that ridgeline with artillery/air support.
This war is near peer with a evolving front line. You have to set up the guns, account for adjustments with limited guidance/precision from the guys at the front while the tanks are rolling through at full speed. Being able to get rounds fast on target in a short period of time is a study in divine intervention. Not to mention that ammunition storage in rapidly changing temperatures and humidity has its own problems with accuracy and guns having limited serving breaks if any at all.
Questioning why shots are all over the place comes from a position of privilege fighting a war with superior information.
What were they aiming for?
Could have been a saturation bombardment on advancing troops or whatever. Artillery is really scary as an AoE weapon – and kind of hilarious if you’re not on the receiving end. Ever see 20m conifer trees fly their own length up in the air?
In my experience, the only way to get really pinpoint accuracy with arty is to use super high tech (and expensive) rounds like BONUS or STRIX.
Dude this straight up reminds me of those old Close Combat games.
I just got 10+ years of that flushing back and I appreciate it
I wonder how many duds are buried in the dirt.
Firing at moving targets in the same areas for years now gets you that.
Also, just like regular infantry tactics, you train for precision and perfection in the rear, so that in combat when the shit is hitting the fan and they’re shouting back at you, you’re at least capable.
The infantry aren’t out there taking slow breaths and squeezing between each shot and then regaining a sight picture, because it’s not training.
Same with artillery.
As Mike Tyson says, everybody has a plan until they get hit in the mouth.
It is accuracy through volume. The amount of artillery that the Russians use is absolutely staggering. Their artillery is structured the same as their tanks ( and most of their military equipment honestly), quick to produce, cheap, easy to replace. Overwhelming the enemy with numbers.
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