Sony exec says Madame Web and Kraven the Hunter bombed because of critics: ‘These are not terrible films’
https://ew.com/sony-exec-says-madame-web-and-kraven-the-hunter-bombed-because-of-critics-8766763
Sony exec says Madame Web and Kraven the Hunter bombed because of critics: ‘These are not terrible films’
https://ew.com/sony-exec-says-madame-web-and-kraven-the-hunter-bombed-because-of-critics-8766763
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>“Madame Web underperformed in the theaters because the press just crucified it,” Vinciquerra told the outlet. “It was not a bad film, and it did great on Netflix. For some reason, the press decided that they didn’t want us making these films out of Kraven and Madame Web, and the critics just destroyed them.”
>He added, “These are not terrible films. They were just destroyed by the critics in the press, for some reason.”
>“Unfortunately, [Kraven the Hunter] that we launched last weekend, and my last film launch, is probably the worst launch we had in the 7 1/2 years so that didn’t work out very well,” the executive said, “which I still don’t understand, because the film is not a bad film.”
>“I do think we need to rethink it, just because it’s snake-bitten,” he said. “If we put another one out, it’s going to get destroyed, no matter how good or bad it is.”
Counterpoint: They’re not good films.
Kraven is not terrible but it’s not good and Madame Web is in fact terrible
Madame Web, oh my, it was a train wreck on the silver screen, a true howler! If you’re gauging its quality based on Netflix clicks, then you’ve clearly been drinking from the fountain of delusion. Sure, it was new—I’ll grant it that—but only barely better than the dreck I’d already trudged through. And let’s not forget, I was captive, soaring 30,000 feet above the earth, where my options were a tiny sack of salty despair called peanuts and a splash of lukewarm water on a marathon six-hour haul. A crucible of endurance, not entertainment, if ever there was one! A viewing experience so dire, I almost started rooting for the plane’s turbulence to shake some life into the flight.
| “These are not terrible films. They were just destroyed by the critics in the press, for some reason.”
Critics dictate your future. I dislike how much executives really miss the mark and have a very “We did nothing and we’re all out of ideas” attitude toward these things.
Get 10 executives to pay for the film 500 million times then. The audience decides what’s bad and what’s good, simple as that, no matter what your algorithm says or who tells you at the end of the day write a good story and make it compelling and people will show up, people want good stories.
“It’s not us. It’s the viewers that are stupid”
Sony should’ve let Disney handle the creative and add those characters in the MCU and Sony could’ve still produced and distributed.
When your best defense is “it’s not terrible”. Uh, ok.
Terrible movie, holy shit. This and the new Venom are complete dog shit.
What’s funny is that Kraven COULD have worked if the writers had just dumbed down the premise instead of trying to do sequel baiting.
A very simple film of a retired ~~hitman~~ hunter who goes home only to find out that ~~mobsters~~ poachers killed his ~~puppy~~ cub and now he takes the mantle of ~~Baba Yaga~~ The Hunter to get revenge.
There. 90 minutes of cool action sequences with gory kills. And that’s it. That would be such an easy premise but no, Sony had to give Kraven animal superpowers from a black lawyer teen witch and have him fight a CGI rhino-man.
Never saw Madame Web, but Kraven was awful.
He’s an idiot. Madame Web was terrible.
I have t seen Kraven and won’t until it’s on streaming
They are bad because they use established characters and sometimes stories, then don’t use them like they are established.
They’re also characters that are tied to the spider-man mythos without using spiderman at all. They can have their own stories and what not, but taking them out of their source material and history and trying to shoehorn them into solo stories that don’t even try to match their comics ba k grounds.
Venom was a good movie, I didn’t enjoy it as a spider-man fan because it more symbiote, the movie, than Venom. It would have worked if they. Didn’t use the Venom name at all because nothing else tied to Venom.
I’m surprised they keep cranking out Venom movies. None of them have been good.
He’s right the are not terrible films, they are absolute abominations and each director should be prohibited from ever making a movie again
I can’t speak to Kraven but Madame Web absolutely *is* a terrible film. My friend and I spent the whole thing baffled by the fact that seemingly every creative decision made in the course of producing it was the wrong one.
This executive is not right for the job if they are unable to recognize the problems with movies that bomb in the box office…
Madame Web is legit hot garbage.
If you thought George of the Jungle needed a gritty reboot, Kraven was the movie for you. It wasn’t terrible, it just was hard to take seriously.
Old Hollywood: Give the people what they want!!!
New Hollywood: People give us money and shut up!!!
Sounds like the executives over at Sony are the problem. Obvious solution is to fire and replace them.
Well I haven’t actually met a person in real life who has seen this lol
Sounds like if that Exec has anything to do with more movies going forward they will have more flops.
Am I out of touch with what the people want? No it’s the people who are wrong.
these idiots learned nothing
That’s an embarrassing statement
The actors in Madam Web know the film sucks.
They aren’t terrible. It’s garbage
Madame Web actually was pretty bad in multiple ways. I enjoyed it in the way I can enjoy just about anything because I’m an easy audience, but the more critical part of my brain was still clocking problems left and right and I’m very glad I spent no direct money seeing it.
Madam web might be one of the worst movies I’ve ever seen in my adult life.
Like it’s fucking incredible how bad it is.
The villain in Madame Web literally gets defeated by the “P” from the Pepsi logo dropping on him. That was the most incredible product placement I’ve ever seen.
And if it wasn’t clear enough that this was a Pepsi commercial and nothing else, the very final scene has Madame Web musing about the future while the spider-women look at her while sipping Pepsi.
I think Pepsi man was a more subtle Pepsi/Sony collab.
Am I so out of touch?? No, it’s the children who are wrong
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