Rheimentall CEO : We are building up artillery production in Lithuania, in Ukraine, in Germany. We are doubling powder production in Bavaria and Spain, we are doubling artillery production in our six plants in Spain. And we are planning powder production in Romania

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1. the specific part of the interview

   >BZ: Rheinmetall is building a new ammunition factory for 155-millimeter artillery ammunition in Lithuania by 2026. Are there any further expansion plans for artillery?

   >Papperger: We are building up artillery production in Lithuania, we are building up in Ukraine, we are building up in Germany. We are doubling powder production in Bavaria, we are doubling powder production, but also artillery production in our six plants in Spain. And we are planning powder production in Romania. In other words, we have six or seven parallel projects that we are currently developing and investing in

   also

   >BZ: Isn’t an ammunition factory in Lithuania risky because Russian planes might fly over the border and bomb the ammunition factory?

   > Papperger: If Lithuania is bombed, then we would have Article 5 of the NATO treaty. We are making this investment together with the Lithuanian state, so the risk for Rheinmetall is limited. But the Baltic states themselves also want to have their own capacities and not be dependent on supplies from their allies.

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   How is the war in Ukraine going at the moment?

   >For the last 25 years, we have always been told that tactical nuclear weapons would be used in war**. But Russia is the biggest nuclear power in the world and it doesn’t do it. Why don’t they do it? Quite simply because the areas where it would be used would be destroyed. And the second point: you would become a pariah if you did that. That’s why conventional war is back. Russia is better prepared than the West, and we must learn from this.** We have to prepare for a conventional war. You need soldiers and material for that, but above all you need ammunition. That was totally underestimated. Now we have a positional war and they are fighting each other by firing thousands of bullets at each other every day. It’s a positional war, just like in the First World War. It’s always 200 meters to the front, 200 meters to the rear. This is a war of fatigue that we are watching with horror. And Ukraine can only win this war of fatigue if the West continues to help. Without this support, Ukraine is doomed.

2. Dude doesn’t appreciate being targeted for assasination it seems.

3. *” But the Baltic states themselves also want to have their own capacities and not be dependent on supplies from their allies.”*

   The Baltic states have seen what happens when you live next to Russia and have to beg for arms and ammunition when they invariably attack.

4. There was a very big pyrotechnic plant in Bulgaria, near the capital city that had know how about powders but last year somehow it catched fire and burned for few days killig almost every employee. Sometimes I wonder if it was the Russians.

5. This thought makes me gag, but putin seems to have helped solve unemployment in the European Union

6. Kick ass

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