Fewer babies. Less sex. Stay at home. Work from home. Cars are bad. Tourism unsustainable. Plastic bad for you. Food shrinking.
> Young people have also said that controversial OnlyFans adult content creators set poor examples, who made headlines after bragging of having sex with several young men in a day.
Bloody modern sex workers not setting a good example to the kids, not like back in the day.
Anecdotal from a 26M who is a bit of a hoe at times.
The number of women totally okay with no condom use is remarkable. In fact, I often have to argue FOR there use in hook ups as opposed to the other way round.
I suspect most are pretty happy with BC and would get an abortion if needed, hence the complacency.
But it is fascinating how few care. Of the 100 or so women I have had encounters with maybe 3/4? Have ever requested condoms and at least 40/50 have outright stated they don’t like them. A couple were furious at my insistence.
This is also why I’ve ended up with chlamydia twice, both from established FWBs who I thought would be safer.
I don’t know what has happened but condoms need to be more prioritised again!
I think… maybe, they’re probably not using them because sex feels much better without one.
Just a hunch.
We’re getting to a weird place where it’s normalised not only to go unprotected but to have more violent, rougher sex without necessarily being prepared for the risks or having the explicit consent of the other partner.
I can hardly feel them, are they really that big of a deal?
As a former teacher of PE and sex ed, I worry we’re just totally losing control of the narrative and expectations around sex and relationships to the internet. So much progress was made in making the curriculum more up-to-date and thorough, but now we’re competing with huge internet forces who can access young people at any time through their phones, and I don’t know what we can do about it
Would be interesting to see if normalising condom use in porn changed wider habits. But difficult to incentivise or legislate for given bodily autonomy and adult content being made in various jurisdictions.
Why do these threads always attract so many fantasists
Why do I get the feeling that there is a simpler reason something like the PSAs on condom use have been cut for years or they aren’t covered in class or something.
The rise in HIV diagnoses is the steepest amongst heterosexual men and women, with a rise of more than 30% from 2022 according to government data.
Bring back the fruity rubbers being thrown out for free at Freshers fairs and night clubs.
I find that it’s not just men who flout condom use these days. Many a woman I know don’t use them because it’s “icky” or “feels different”. Girl, surely having an STD is much more icky than a fucking johnny.
People in this thread are underestimating the change of how sexually open the younger generation are. I’m 31 and there was always promiscuous girls around at school / college / uni etc. The difference then was social media was in it’s infancy. Virtually zero girls would post thirst traps online, you’d be lucky to find a bikini picture in their facebook holiday album. Women didn’t openly talk about their past experiences, fetishes, crazy ons and fwb they’ve had on TikTok for everyone to see. Even the clubbing / rave scene that was known for ‘out there’ clothing wasn’t as sexualised as it is now.
Fast forward 15 years and near enough every young women will have a bikini shot / thirst trap on their public IG that all their family, friends, work colleagues can see. They’ve seen a million tiktoks about fetishes and crazy sex stories, they’ve seen onlyfans girls showing off their lifestyle and trying to convince them to do it, they’ve seen the boys they like favorite and repost the girls acting like whores online etc. The game has changed, social media has destroyed the taboo around a lot of stuff and the new normal is a lot different than it was in the late 2000’s.
Onlyfans has been a game changer for sex workers and adult performers but it’s fucked the rest of us in the process.
Kind of torn at the moment but I think making it harder for people to access sites like Onlyfans (not pornhub or xvideos) might be a better avenue in the future.
This is a line that seems so familiar: porn sets unrealistic expectations of sex and is not sex education
OnlyFans has changed who is the ones making porn, but it has always been constant.
There’s also a complacency in people, both straight and LGBT too towards STDs “antibiotics can cure them” or “PReP means I don’t need condoms”
Antibiotic resistence is growing as a concern over STDs (I think Gonnorhea being one) and is going to get worse without new antibiotics that effective.
PReP can reduce any HIV transmission risk to near 0% but does not stop you getting others.
The other excuses are “I hate how condoms feel,” “sex feels better without,” “pulling out is enough to prevent pregnancy,” or “the condom is too tight”
1) Try a different size condom
2) Pulling out has a risk of pregnancy between 4%-22%
What schools teach in sex ed just fails to get through a lot of the time
Do colleges and sixth forms still hand Johnnies out for free? That was a life saver for my cohort just over 10 years ago.
The report doesn’t mention onlyfans, which seems quite a wild stretch in my opinion. It does mention demographics: poorer teenagers are less likely to use protection. Which to me suggests it’s a structural problem around access to contraception rather than the internet ruining everything as most of the comments here suggest. Are teenagers even on onlyfans? Strict age verification and it doesn’t feel like the sort of thing they’re spending their meagre disposable earnings on.
Furthermore, the rise has been happening since 2014 and is Europe wide, so I’m not sure what a woman who made UK news over the last few weeks can be personally blamed for a steady, continent wide rise.
Otherwise, sure, carry on with your “in my day/the world has gone to shit” chitter chatter.
I think part of the situation is that young people don’t have first hand experience of the dangers of STIs as those who grew up in the 80’s and 90’s, when HIV was a death sentence, it’s the same for smoking, some of my older relatives and relatives of friends often died horrible early and preventable deaths, suffering the effects of being smokers, and lots of people, famous and regular society members were dying of AIDS. So it’s difficult to make the leap from having unprotected casual sex, to being massively impacted by disease. What I do find odd, is that with the massive rise in sexual imagery and videography, and how it seems acceptable, a lot of young people are actually less able to discuss their own sexuality and bodies openly without embarrassment.
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Fewer babies. Less sex. Stay at home. Work from home. Cars are bad. Tourism unsustainable. Plastic bad for you. Food shrinking.
> Young people have also said that controversial OnlyFans adult content creators set poor examples, who made headlines after bragging of having sex with several young men in a day.
Bloody modern sex workers not setting a good example to the kids, not like back in the day.
Anecdotal from a 26M who is a bit of a hoe at times.
The number of women totally okay with no condom use is remarkable. In fact, I often have to argue FOR there use in hook ups as opposed to the other way round.
I suspect most are pretty happy with BC and would get an abortion if needed, hence the complacency.
But it is fascinating how few care. Of the 100 or so women I have had encounters with maybe 3/4? Have ever requested condoms and at least 40/50 have outright stated they don’t like them. A couple were furious at my insistence.
This is also why I’ve ended up with chlamydia twice, both from established FWBs who I thought would be safer.
I don’t know what has happened but condoms need to be more prioritised again!
I think… maybe, they’re probably not using them because sex feels much better without one.
Just a hunch.
We’re getting to a weird place where it’s normalised not only to go unprotected but to have more violent, rougher sex without necessarily being prepared for the risks or having the explicit consent of the other partner.
I can hardly feel them, are they really that big of a deal?
As a former teacher of PE and sex ed, I worry we’re just totally losing control of the narrative and expectations around sex and relationships to the internet. So much progress was made in making the curriculum more up-to-date and thorough, but now we’re competing with huge internet forces who can access young people at any time through their phones, and I don’t know what we can do about it
Would be interesting to see if normalising condom use in porn changed wider habits. But difficult to incentivise or legislate for given bodily autonomy and adult content being made in various jurisdictions.
Why do these threads always attract so many fantasists
Why do I get the feeling that there is a simpler reason something like the PSAs on condom use have been cut for years or they aren’t covered in class or something.
The rise in HIV diagnoses is the steepest amongst heterosexual men and women, with a rise of more than 30% from 2022 according to government data.
Bring back the fruity rubbers being thrown out for free at Freshers fairs and night clubs.
I find that it’s not just men who flout condom use these days. Many a woman I know don’t use them because it’s “icky” or “feels different”. Girl, surely having an STD is much more icky than a fucking johnny.
People in this thread are underestimating the change of how sexually open the younger generation are. I’m 31 and there was always promiscuous girls around at school / college / uni etc. The difference then was social media was in it’s infancy. Virtually zero girls would post thirst traps online, you’d be lucky to find a bikini picture in their facebook holiday album. Women didn’t openly talk about their past experiences, fetishes, crazy ons and fwb they’ve had on TikTok for everyone to see. Even the clubbing / rave scene that was known for ‘out there’ clothing wasn’t as sexualised as it is now.
Fast forward 15 years and near enough every young women will have a bikini shot / thirst trap on their public IG that all their family, friends, work colleagues can see. They’ve seen a million tiktoks about fetishes and crazy sex stories, they’ve seen onlyfans girls showing off their lifestyle and trying to convince them to do it, they’ve seen the boys they like favorite and repost the girls acting like whores online etc. The game has changed, social media has destroyed the taboo around a lot of stuff and the new normal is a lot different than it was in the late 2000’s.
Onlyfans has been a game changer for sex workers and adult performers but it’s fucked the rest of us in the process.
Kind of torn at the moment but I think making it harder for people to access sites like Onlyfans (not pornhub or xvideos) might be a better avenue in the future.
This is a line that seems so familiar: porn sets unrealistic expectations of sex and is not sex education
OnlyFans has changed who is the ones making porn, but it has always been constant.
There’s also a complacency in people, both straight and LGBT too towards STDs “antibiotics can cure them” or “PReP means I don’t need condoms”
Antibiotic resistence is growing as a concern over STDs (I think Gonnorhea being one) and is going to get worse without new antibiotics that effective.
PReP can reduce any HIV transmission risk to near 0% but does not stop you getting others.
The other excuses are “I hate how condoms feel,” “sex feels better without,” “pulling out is enough to prevent pregnancy,” or “the condom is too tight”
1) Try a different size condom
2) Pulling out has a risk of pregnancy between 4%-22%
What schools teach in sex ed just fails to get through a lot of the time
Do colleges and sixth forms still hand Johnnies out for free? That was a life saver for my cohort just over 10 years ago.
The report doesn’t mention onlyfans, which seems quite a wild stretch in my opinion. It does mention demographics: poorer teenagers are less likely to use protection. Which to me suggests it’s a structural problem around access to contraception rather than the internet ruining everything as most of the comments here suggest. Are teenagers even on onlyfans? Strict age verification and it doesn’t feel like the sort of thing they’re spending their meagre disposable earnings on.
Furthermore, the rise has been happening since 2014 and is Europe wide, so I’m not sure what a woman who made UK news over the last few weeks can be personally blamed for a steady, continent wide rise.
Otherwise, sure, carry on with your “in my day/the world has gone to shit” chitter chatter.
I think part of the situation is that young people don’t have first hand experience of the dangers of STIs as those who grew up in the 80’s and 90’s, when HIV was a death sentence, it’s the same for smoking, some of my older relatives and relatives of friends often died horrible early and preventable deaths, suffering the effects of being smokers, and lots of people, famous and regular society members were dying of AIDS. So it’s difficult to make the leap from having unprotected casual sex, to being massively impacted by disease. What I do find odd, is that with the massive rise in sexual imagery and videography, and how it seems acceptable, a lot of young people are actually less able to discuss their own sexuality and bodies openly without embarrassment.
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