> The city of Tallinn has established a goal of losing all diesel buses from its public transport routes by 2025. The buses will be replaced by gas- and electric-powered buses and the entire public transportation fleet should be powered by either gas or electricity by 2035.
Most important part for me.
Public transport is also free for citizens of Tallinn. That includes trolleybuses, buses, trams and trains.
So… a bus.
I sure hope this is a solution for a genuine problem and not just another push for putting batteries where they aren’t needed (and that the batteries are recyclable!).
Also quite the difference between mentioned range of 3-8 km and the 20km claimed by the AS board chair.
ok but can it be driven without any other kind of European?
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As much as it can help extend network’s, it also means you only need to power the easy bits of the route. No need to have the wire mess, you sometimes get at intersections.
That’s racist
This is fantastic.
In London the longer ‘bendy’ busses but didn’t work 100% with some of our routes, are these the same type? It was easily fixed by not using them on routes with tight turns – hope their testing was better.
UK is finally starting to do something similar with Trucks, which is already tested and working in other countries. That would be an interesting crossover for last mile to reduce pollution and noise.
The UK has been testing this for the past year, perhaps Tallinn can check with them.
Expected jokes about polish people, I am not disappointed. But that bus is a bit controversial because the original plan was to build a dedicated tram network to link Tallinn to it’s suburbs. But I guess a bus is cheaper, plus you need to build new wide roads that car owning voters also like. In the last 90 years only 2 km of new track has been added to the tramnetwork, the rest of it is same as it was in the 1930-s. 5-years ago the actually took down a large portion of the trolley network. They been flip-flopping plans so often it’s hard to keep track. First trolleys were condemned to extinction, then new diesel, then hybrids were the future, then all of the busses were planned to run on gas, then recently electric( battery) and now this. Maybe soon we’ll have a monorail by the looks of things.
I came here to make some whimsical comment about Polish bus drivers. I didn’t anticipate that literally every other commenter would have had the same thought.
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> The city of Tallinn has established a goal of losing all diesel buses from its public transport routes by 2025. The buses will be replaced by gas- and electric-powered buses and the entire public transportation fleet should be powered by either gas or electricity by 2035.
Most important part for me.
Public transport is also free for citizens of Tallinn. That includes trolleybuses, buses, trams and trains.
So… a bus.
I sure hope this is a solution for a genuine problem and not just another push for putting batteries where they aren’t needed (and that the batteries are recyclable!).
Also quite the difference between mentioned range of 3-8 km and the 20km claimed by the AS board chair.
ok but can it be driven without any other kind of European?
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As much as it can help extend network’s, it also means you only need to power the easy bits of the route. No need to have the wire mess, you sometimes get at intersections.
That’s racist
This is fantastic.
In London the longer ‘bendy’ busses but didn’t work 100% with some of our routes, are these the same type? It was easily fixed by not using them on routes with tight turns – hope their testing was better.
UK is finally starting to do something similar with Trucks, which is already tested and working in other countries. That would be an interesting crossover for last mile to reduce pollution and noise.
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2021/jul/27/uk-government-backs-scheme-for-motorway-cables-to-power-lorries
A Tom Scott video on German system (4 mins).
https://youtu.be/_3P_S7pL7Yg
The UK has been testing this for the past year, perhaps Tallinn can check with them.
Expected jokes about polish people, I am not disappointed. But that bus is a bit controversial because the original plan was to build a dedicated tram network to link Tallinn to it’s suburbs. But I guess a bus is cheaper, plus you need to build new wide roads that car owning voters also like. In the last 90 years only 2 km of new track has been added to the tramnetwork, the rest of it is same as it was in the 1930-s. 5-years ago the actually took down a large portion of the trolley network. They been flip-flopping plans so often it’s hard to keep track. First trolleys were condemned to extinction, then new diesel, then hybrids were the future, then all of the busses were planned to run on gas, then recently electric( battery) and now this. Maybe soon we’ll have a monorail by the looks of things.
I came here to make some whimsical comment about Polish bus drivers. I didn’t anticipate that literally every other commenter would have had the same thought.