Halfway through the 20th century would have been my guess.
I’m 37 y o and even I relate to this.
A hyper atomised society, where status trumps connection. The children in this article felt intense loneliness but reported that “they didn’t know how to make new friends”.
No wonder so many in the UK are subdued and demoralised. And with this level of isolation comes paranoia, which you can see spilling over in these conspiracy theory groups.
Anyone surprised?
My friend has a 6 year old who doesnt want to go outside because its dangerous for his mum.
Make no mistake lockdown has decimated child development. From missing socialising to anxiety and agrophobia.
It will last decades.
Extremism will rise as well as kids spend more time online and find incel and other dark corners of the internet.
Doesn’t mention one way or another in the article whether it takes a 2 year global pandemic in to account?
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Makes sense. When I look at future prospects of home ownership, retiring before 70 or even not having to live paycheck to paycheck it depresses the fuck out of me.
Hard to be excited about a future that looks bleak. I grew up in the 90s and 00s, things looked good and I expected to grow up and have a similar quality of life to my parents and grandparents; 2008 threw all that out the window. It was like the rules of the game changed half way through and I was expected to suck it up and not complain. You then add in climate change and it feels even more hopeless. People tell you to ignore the news and go outside but the evidence is everywhere to see, even the petrol pumps I pass on the way to work show me that.
Not reading past the headline (hehe), but I’ve always felt that the popularity of the Internet is to blame. It really has had a huge impact on society.
It all went downhill after Peter Andre and Katie Price split up.
Well I wonder why…
*Gestures broadly at everything…*
I’m 31 and relate to this. I got lucky in the pandemic and made a new close friend. The first true friend I’ve made in a long time and I think I would be in such a worse state if this hadn’t happened. Jobs and no girlfriend are the only things that haunt me now.
Not many opportunities, costs going up everywhere, 2 years of covid and the gift from our elders that is Brexit. Hardly surprising.
This sub – “keep the restrictions going!”
Also this sub – “noooo why is everyone depressed?”
Most of us having nothing to really live for.
What do we have to look forward to? Being stuck renting for the rest of our life? More tax increases so we get little to no spare cash to enjoy ourselves? Being stuck in horrendous working conditions that pay pennies with no pay increase while the CEO announces record profits?
It’s all so pointless.
Age of 51 now, I’m likely the worst person possible to even suggest anything at all that might help young people on the grounds I obviously ain’t one.
However, do feel pretty strongly if folks my age group quit blaming the youngsters for almost everything gone ‘wrong’ locally it’d make the local youngsters feel a lot better about themselves.
An extremely anecdotal example of what I mean would be one of the things I do daily is litter pick along the route the kids walk to school. It’d be a mile-ish wander with no bins.
Meet lots my age (because the kids are at school) who hold the school-kids accountable for the litter along the route, yet the vast majority of what I’m carrying is empty cans/bottle of alcohol, plastic bags full of dog mess, odd coffee cup.
Now unless times have changed and most kids nowadays get drunk as they walk a dog on the way to and from school, holding youngsters accountable for the majority of what’s in my litter bag daily just doesn’t sit well with me.
Not trying to say I don’t see litter that might be from young folks – odd empty can of a soft drink, sweet wrappers … just saying the far greater amount I myself pick up daily in my local area is not the sort of litter I’d associate with youngsters.
All this, course, is anecdotal observation, just what I see with my own two eyes.
Just don’t feel encouraging kids to *’play outside because it’s good for them’* then accusing them for everything that’s gone ‘wrong’ outside is a very positive thing to be doing.
I didn’t need a study to know this. There’s little to be happy about nowadays.
Myself and those friends who worked hard, started families, and managed to buy houses are all doing fine. It’s the friends who still work dead end jobs and spend most their money on weekends who seem to be unhappy. Funny that.
I doubly its any higher when you look at 25-40
Its shite living in the country, work for fuck all other than to make others rich
We need to stike, the entire working class should just down tool and fuck off for a month. Watch the rich cunts squirm
Strange that everyone is ignoring the lockdowns here…
Why would we start caring about young people now? They won’t be young in a few years and then it won’t be a problem.
Vote for me in the next election.
I’m very close to not being able to call myself young anymore but yeah, my first priority after being able to financially support myself is to find a way off this miserable island
Not surprising. None of them will be able to afford houses as the country is run by rich people pretending to be politicians. World war three just started, everything is dying from insecticide, the climate is broken and life will probably be shit.
Can you imagine if developers built such community centers in the middle of a development of houses. Yeah, i am dreaming
No. Shit.
Pretty sure *everyone’s* happiness is at all time low. You’d have to flippin crazy not to be depressed by everything that’s going on… I mean, take your pick, WW3 kicking off, pandemic this and covid that, economy is in the shitter, no money for anyone or anything… and so on… No hope, No future, no fucking chance…
You’d have to have something wrong with you, not be to be depressed and driven crazy by all this crap.
The number of my mates on antidepressants or nearing that mental state is fucking ridiculous.
As children we should be excited and nervous to go face bravely the new wide world ahead of us.
Instead we can’t remove the images of climate destruction or the inherent exploitation that facilitates our superficial western habits from our still growing minds
In other news, a new scientific breakthrough has come to the conclusion that water is wet
Tbh, outside of work and my girl, I have 2-3 people I would say are proper friends. None of them are from university (which I recently graduated from). It feels weird because a lot of people say they meet their best friends at university but the people I roll with are friends from school, not university.
A lot of that is probs because I’m working class and black and went to a mostly white and middle class university but a lot of it is probably definitely from the pandemic. I missed out with a lot of uni friendships because of the pandemic.
Oh well, we move.
This is really sad but not at all surprising. Lots of young people face a very bleak future. House prices are out of control, wages aren’t increasing in line with inflation and the rising cost of living, the rental market is terrible, young people will be paying off student debt for most of their lives, dating is incredibly tough, smartphone obsession is stopping people forming proper connections at a young age, social media is almost certainly having a negative impact on people’s mental health, etc.
I’m 31, so older than those in this study, but I largely feel the same as them. Life seems unrelentingly hard. I know it’s not meant to be all sunshine and rainbows, but surely it should be enjoyable more often than it’s not? Otherwise what’s the point?
We have to pay for 2 years shielding old people, so that they dont die 6 months earlier.
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I’m surprised its only 13 years.
Halfway through the 20th century would have been my guess.
I’m 37 y o and even I relate to this.
A hyper atomised society, where status trumps connection. The children in this article felt intense loneliness but reported that “they didn’t know how to make new friends”.
No wonder so many in the UK are subdued and demoralised. And with this level of isolation comes paranoia, which you can see spilling over in these conspiracy theory groups.
Anyone surprised?
My friend has a 6 year old who doesnt want to go outside because its dangerous for his mum.
Make no mistake lockdown has decimated child development. From missing socialising to anxiety and agrophobia.
It will last decades.
Extremism will rise as well as kids spend more time online and find incel and other dark corners of the internet.
Doesn’t mention one way or another in the article whether it takes a 2 year global pandemic in to account?
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Makes sense. When I look at future prospects of home ownership, retiring before 70 or even not having to live paycheck to paycheck it depresses the fuck out of me.
Hard to be excited about a future that looks bleak. I grew up in the 90s and 00s, things looked good and I expected to grow up and have a similar quality of life to my parents and grandparents; 2008 threw all that out the window. It was like the rules of the game changed half way through and I was expected to suck it up and not complain. You then add in climate change and it feels even more hopeless. People tell you to ignore the news and go outside but the evidence is everywhere to see, even the petrol pumps I pass on the way to work show me that.
Not reading past the headline (hehe), but I’ve always felt that the popularity of the Internet is to blame. It really has had a huge impact on society.
It all went downhill after Peter Andre and Katie Price split up.
Well I wonder why…
*Gestures broadly at everything…*
I’m 31 and relate to this. I got lucky in the pandemic and made a new close friend. The first true friend I’ve made in a long time and I think I would be in such a worse state if this hadn’t happened. Jobs and no girlfriend are the only things that haunt me now.
Not many opportunities, costs going up everywhere, 2 years of covid and the gift from our elders that is Brexit. Hardly surprising.
This sub – “keep the restrictions going!”
Also this sub – “noooo why is everyone depressed?”
Most of us having nothing to really live for.
What do we have to look forward to? Being stuck renting for the rest of our life? More tax increases so we get little to no spare cash to enjoy ourselves? Being stuck in horrendous working conditions that pay pennies with no pay increase while the CEO announces record profits?
It’s all so pointless.
Age of 51 now, I’m likely the worst person possible to even suggest anything at all that might help young people on the grounds I obviously ain’t one.
However, do feel pretty strongly if folks my age group quit blaming the youngsters for almost everything gone ‘wrong’ locally it’d make the local youngsters feel a lot better about themselves.
An extremely anecdotal example of what I mean would be one of the things I do daily is litter pick along the route the kids walk to school. It’d be a mile-ish wander with no bins.
Meet lots my age (because the kids are at school) who hold the school-kids accountable for the litter along the route, yet the vast majority of what I’m carrying is empty cans/bottle of alcohol, plastic bags full of dog mess, odd coffee cup.
Now unless times have changed and most kids nowadays get drunk as they walk a dog on the way to and from school, holding youngsters accountable for the majority of what’s in my litter bag daily just doesn’t sit well with me.
Not trying to say I don’t see litter that might be from young folks – odd empty can of a soft drink, sweet wrappers … just saying the far greater amount I myself pick up daily in my local area is not the sort of litter I’d associate with youngsters.
All this, course, is anecdotal observation, just what I see with my own two eyes.
Just don’t feel encouraging kids to *’play outside because it’s good for them’* then accusing them for everything that’s gone ‘wrong’ outside is a very positive thing to be doing.
I didn’t need a study to know this. There’s little to be happy about nowadays.
Myself and those friends who worked hard, started families, and managed to buy houses are all doing fine. It’s the friends who still work dead end jobs and spend most their money on weekends who seem to be unhappy. Funny that.
I doubly its any higher when you look at 25-40
Its shite living in the country, work for fuck all other than to make others rich
We need to stike, the entire working class should just down tool and fuck off for a month. Watch the rich cunts squirm
Strange that everyone is ignoring the lockdowns here…
Why would we start caring about young people now? They won’t be young in a few years and then it won’t be a problem.
Vote for me in the next election.
I’m very close to not being able to call myself young anymore but yeah, my first priority after being able to financially support myself is to find a way off this miserable island
Not surprising. None of them will be able to afford houses as the country is run by rich people pretending to be politicians. World war three just started, everything is dying from insecticide, the climate is broken and life will probably be shit.
Can you imagine if developers built such community centers in the middle of a development of houses. Yeah, i am dreaming
No. Shit.
Pretty sure *everyone’s* happiness is at all time low. You’d have to flippin crazy not to be depressed by everything that’s going on… I mean, take your pick, WW3 kicking off, pandemic this and covid that, economy is in the shitter, no money for anyone or anything… and so on… No hope, No future, no fucking chance…
You’d have to have something wrong with you, not be to be depressed and driven crazy by all this crap.
The number of my mates on antidepressants or nearing that mental state is fucking ridiculous.
As children we should be excited and nervous to go face bravely the new wide world ahead of us.
Instead we can’t remove the images of climate destruction or the inherent exploitation that facilitates our superficial western habits from our still growing minds
In other news, a new scientific breakthrough has come to the conclusion that water is wet
Tbh, outside of work and my girl, I have 2-3 people I would say are proper friends. None of them are from university (which I recently graduated from). It feels weird because a lot of people say they meet their best friends at university but the people I roll with are friends from school, not university.
A lot of that is probs because I’m working class and black and went to a mostly white and middle class university but a lot of it is probably definitely from the pandemic. I missed out with a lot of uni friendships because of the pandemic.
Oh well, we move.
This is really sad but not at all surprising. Lots of young people face a very bleak future. House prices are out of control, wages aren’t increasing in line with inflation and the rising cost of living, the rental market is terrible, young people will be paying off student debt for most of their lives, dating is incredibly tough, smartphone obsession is stopping people forming proper connections at a young age, social media is almost certainly having a negative impact on people’s mental health, etc.
I’m 31, so older than those in this study, but I largely feel the same as them. Life seems unrelentingly hard. I know it’s not meant to be all sunshine and rainbows, but surely it should be enjoyable more often than it’s not? Otherwise what’s the point?
We have to pay for 2 years shielding old people, so that they dont die 6 months earlier.