Dem Group: Voters In The End Did Not Really Care That Trump Instigated Jan. 6 Attack
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-jan-6-voters-poll_n_67521b6fe4b0036b951e16ab/amp
Dem Group: Voters In The End Did Not Really Care That Trump Instigated Jan. 6 Attack
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-jan-6-voters-poll_n_67521b6fe4b0036b951e16ab/amp
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Yeah, Americans don’t care about shit unless it directly affects them. They largely don’t know how to see further than 10 feet from their face, or 5 minutes into their future.
We have 2 major problems in the US. 1) Mental Health 2) Education. We have a bunch of mentally fucked up idiots in this country. Absolute morons who have the ability to vote. They vote against their best interests and don’t even realize it.
Yep, and even more egregious they did not give 2 fucks about the false electors scheme
They can try and argue that jan 6th was just “protesting gone wrong” (it wasnt) but the false electors scheme is most solid tangible evidence of Trumps attempt to overthrow the government…his co-conspirators are still being indicted and Trump only recieved indictment in Georgia as well as by Jack Smith federally which is now going nowhere, despicable
he should be impeached and convicted in the senate the second he is inaugurated on this alone even beyond what happend Jan 6th (wont happen though piece of shit republicans)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_fake_electors_plot
You can tell people until you’re blue in the face but some kids just need to touch a hot stove before they learn. Let it burn.
I don’t think it’s that Americans didn’t care per se.
But rather, we weren’t allowed to care.
1. 2021 is miles away. It was horrifying at the time. But COVID was still rampant, the election just happened, and nothing really came of Jan 6th.
2. Since then, inflation has wrecked budgets, forcing many households and people into survival mode, so anything of significant political importance has been shoved WAY down the totem pole.
3. NOTHING CAME OF JAN 6th! I can’t emphasize this enough. Aside from the 2-year gap, we didn’t see any meaningful consequences for those who orchestrated the event. Trump got away with it.
So why on earth should *anyone* care? Yes, it was terrible. Yes, it was an attack on our democracy. Yes, it’s a blueprint to overthrow our government.
But when those same vested interests shrug at what happened… when the entire system is set to shock us into survival mode… why is it a shock that voters don’t care?
Maybe if we didn’t sit on this for 2 years we’d have seen more. Maybe if we put Trump in prison?
But no, we wussed out.
So voters checked out.
The problem is it’s impossible not to sound alarmist when reacting appropriately to a fucking coup if people are living in an alternative reality where they are being disinformed by bad faith actors. Fuck the right wing media, fuck social media, and fuck legacy media for granting legitimacy to the right wing press in the first place .
Fam – let’s be real. The politicians in the room didn’t take it seriously after they got out of harms way.
This was a fucking insurrection. Should have taken all the GOP out of office day fucking one.
They saw the DOJ basically whiff it in every single case… Not that they lost or he wasn’t guilty AF, but if the people who prosecute this shit can’t be arsed to carry any of the cases over the finish line. They even saw the slam dunk case get dismissed (incorrectly, but it happened).
This gave the right all the latitude they needed to message that Trump was persecuted and their viewers ate it up. Then you have the non-political voters who really don’t pay attention, but if he is still running, it couldn’t have been that serious, right? At least that’s how many read it.
The failures that led to this were so many in so many ways that the only way to sum it up briefly is America played itself and lost… and here we are with a criminal who thinks he is king and 30% of the country believing it, another 30% that doesn’t really care and the rest of us who are mad enough to eat their shoes, but feel helpless at this point since the people with the power to stop it all went for performative tactics or were unable to gain enough traction to be effective (examples: J6 committee and Jack Smith both faced a headwind that they could not ultimately surmount).
We can see from South Korea how it should have been handled. The public has just given up thinking the government will save us.
elon rigged that shit.
turns out allowing the media to demonize half of America all day every day for decades the other (overly religious) half wont really care what laws are broken to get rid of them
Yeah not punishing the people responsible really made it seem like the event wasn’t that bad and then why would anyone care at that point?
People would believe it actually was as dangerous as it truly was if the democrats took ACTION that indicated it was truly a danger.
Action means prosecuting trump and treating him like a coup leader for years, not slowly waiting for AG Garland to arrest rank and file people who participated.
Two things from some political folks I used to pay more attention to (now I’m taking a step back from reading/podcasts)
1- Sarah Kendzior, great journalist/writer, often says people assume if things truly were that dangerous there would be consequences. If no consequences then people assume it’s not truly as bad as the “alarmists” claim.
2- Jon Lovett (pod save America etc) I remember right after the election pointed out how hollow it was that Harris and Biden in speeches basically said “well be okay.” Yet during the election they rightly called Trump an aspiring dictator. How do you want Americans to take it seriously when you pivot like that?
I think these two are the crux of it all with people “not caring” about Jan 6
The United States is over.
Why would they? The DOJ did not even start investigating him until he started his 2024 campaign. They were just going to fucking let him go like they always do with rich white conservative guys.
How do you expect people to care when our own Justice Department went out of their way to avoid holding Trump accountable. Biden and Garland intentionally drug their feet on the issue because they were afraid of looking like they were “attacking” republicans and getting retribution if they got back in power and now we all have to deal with the consequences of that. Hiring Garland and not absolutely bringing the hammer down on the insurrection from the TOP down will be by far the biggest stain on Biden’s legacy, an objective failure on the whole administration for allowing trump to even be in a position to run a campaign again.
They would do their best to hang every registered democrat in America if Biden tried the same. Democrats just go “at least no one else got hurt” and do jack shit.
Because they talked didn’t show. The Harris campaign should have run a 30 second spot. Fade into January 6, scene of the cop getting beat unconscious with the flag pole. Audio is Trump’s speech from that day. Fade to black, letters appear: ‘We aren’t going back. Paid for by the Harris/Waltz campaign.’
That’s more effective than empty talk about democracy.
They were TOLD not to care continuously. Right wing news minimized it and every social media platform was inundated with comments minimizing it which turned into more news stories which turned into lack of caring.
In my best Luke Skywalker voice: “I care”.
The truest thing trump ever said was that he could shoot someone on 5th avenue and not lose a vote. They don’t care as long as he playing on their team while the democrats have the “woke mind virus”. Even those that are against what trump says and does but vote Republican don’t care because they are never going to side with the “opposition”.
January 7th was the day. I lost my last bit of faith in this country. I thought more people would care and nobody gave a shit.
Our justice system is a joke.
Fox News did it’s job to get ahead of the story and spin the J6 narrative. As it happened live, both Republicans and Democrats were angry and blamed Trump. Then Fox started calling it a riot; started downplaying what it actually was. Some of their talking heads sowed doubt by saying it was “antifa”. Other news outlets picked up on their reporting and called it a riot as well.
Then within a day or two, the Republicans’ anger at Trump died down. Republicans went back to protecting Trump “for the sake of Party and power”.
Problem is – the vast majority of Trump voters (and unfortunately many Americans) only tune into Fox, Newsmax, OANN and the many abhorrent and hateful radios shows and podcasts that will not even discuss Jan 6/fake electors but only continuously rant on about Democrats, trans people, and illegal immigrants…
Let’s be clear; REPUBLICAN voters didn’t care about the traitorous crime.
Or that’s he’s a convicted felon. Or that he’s a serial rapist/sexual assaulted. Or that he’s a Russian and oligarchy puppet. Or that he’s enabled the sick misogynistic changes to our laws stripping body autonomy for women. They wanted cheap eggs and to deport the brown people.
We fucking cared. We still do care. The elected officials who we’ve entrusted to uphold justice on behalf of the American people have failed us greatly. That is inexcusable, unacceptable and shameful.
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