>Last June, the Vatican made an unprecedented intervention urging the Italian government to change the law over concerns it would infringe upon the Catholic church’s “freedom of thought”.
So Catholic Church is officially based on discrimination of women, disabled and LGBT people?
Based
it’s already a crime, it was an useless political attempt for virtue signaling to complain to the right parties and the church. In the end, even the leftist parties voted no during the poll in the senate, proving that it wasn’t a good law
The ones who down-voted the law are the worst people you can imagine (Centre-right wing fascists, homophobes, xenophobes, corrupted…) BUT the real issue is that for such a civil bill EVEN people from other parties who should have been for the bill passing downvoted.
Italy is NOT a progressive country when it comes to civil rights.
>Italy’s senate has killed off a bill that would have made violence against LGBT people and disabled people, as well as misogyny, a hate crime.
Question about the misogyny part. Misogyny as such, or Misogyny in combination with violence?
Compared to the rest of western european countries Italy is so far behind that is at the same level of eastern europe…
With the exception of the microstates Italy is now the only western european country without same-sex marriage and without anti discrimination protections regarding sexual orientation and gender identity or hate crimes
With Japan is one of the two countries without same-sex marriage in the G7
Even countries considered “third-world” countries or less-developed than Italy like Mexico, Costa Rica, Colombia, Ecuador, Brazil, Uruguay and Argentina have same-sex marriage and anti discrimination legislation and transgender rights
Two of those countries (Mexico and Brazil) are the most Catholic countries in the world and yet their LGBT legislation is among the most advanced world wide so I don’t think the Vatican is to blame here, maybe Italians are truly homophobic and anti gay because I don’t find other explanation
Some europeans like to talk bad about latin america but at least in the countries I mentioned all citizens are TRULY equal under the law, Italy right now has citizen of first class and citizens of second class
The Alabama of Western Europe
Another example of how backwards Europe is. Sigh…
What a bunch of assholes.
>Bill would have made violence against LGBT people and disabled people, as well as misogyny, a hate crime
So they are OK on not just violence against LGBT but on disabled people too?
I’m curious about places where specific laws like this exist (we have generic ones, for everyone). What happens when one of these groups commit a hate crime against another minority or majority groups? Do they get a free pass or they get the gulag?
I will just say that here, in the wannabe-Asterix village on the Adriatic, we have constitutional protection against discrimination (ok, gender identity is not openly specified but we’re working towards it).
Refugees are welcome.
So this bill included misogyny as a hate crime. Was misandry there as well?
AHAHA Guardian can go f itself
Can somebody with understanding of the Italian Law tell me the Use of this law? Seems to me the criminal law of Italy already forbid violence so why make this law?
this law was garbage, teaching sex to 8/9 years kids. a real shame. it is good it did not pass
my kid is 7 and knows nothing abouy sex and genders. still believes in Santa. why should she attend LGTB+ events and get mixed up. basta con l’ipocrisia… ma di che cosa stiamo parlando. if you are gay just be gay, my best friend is gay and we are perfectly cool. why to involve kids? i have no problem with anybody and love and respect all people no matter what. but this law is just bullshit.
I can only suggest that people don’t travel to Italy and don’t buy Italy goods/foods/etc… this is what would sting the most…
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“We need to make violence a crime!”
“It already is”
“We need to make it even more illegal!”
>Last June, the Vatican made an unprecedented intervention urging the Italian government to change the law over concerns it would infringe upon the Catholic church’s “freedom of thought”.
So Catholic Church is officially based on discrimination of women, disabled and LGBT people?
Based
it’s already a crime, it was an useless political attempt for virtue signaling to complain to the right parties and the church. In the end, even the leftist parties voted no during the poll in the senate, proving that it wasn’t a good law
The ones who down-voted the law are the worst people you can imagine (Centre-right wing fascists, homophobes, xenophobes, corrupted…) BUT the real issue is that for such a civil bill EVEN people from other parties who should have been for the bill passing downvoted.
Italy is NOT a progressive country when it comes to civil rights.
>Italy’s senate has killed off a bill that would have made violence against LGBT people and disabled people, as well as misogyny, a hate crime.
Question about the misogyny part. Misogyny as such, or Misogyny in combination with violence?
Compared to the rest of western european countries Italy is so far behind that is at the same level of eastern europe…
With the exception of the microstates Italy is now the only western european country without same-sex marriage and without anti discrimination protections regarding sexual orientation and gender identity or hate crimes
With Japan is one of the two countries without same-sex marriage in the G7
Even countries considered “third-world” countries or less-developed than Italy like Mexico, Costa Rica, Colombia, Ecuador, Brazil, Uruguay and Argentina have same-sex marriage and anti discrimination legislation and transgender rights
Two of those countries (Mexico and Brazil) are the most Catholic countries in the world and yet their LGBT legislation is among the most advanced world wide so I don’t think the Vatican is to blame here, maybe Italians are truly homophobic and anti gay because I don’t find other explanation
Some europeans like to talk bad about latin america but at least in the countries I mentioned all citizens are TRULY equal under the law, Italy right now has citizen of first class and citizens of second class
The Alabama of Western Europe
Another example of how backwards Europe is. Sigh…
What a bunch of assholes.
>Bill would have made violence against LGBT people and disabled people, as well as misogyny, a hate crime
So they are OK on not just violence against LGBT but on disabled people too?
I’m curious about places where specific laws like this exist (we have generic ones, for everyone). What happens when one of these groups commit a hate crime against another minority or majority groups? Do they get a free pass or they get the gulag?
I will just say that here, in the wannabe-Asterix village on the Adriatic, we have constitutional protection against discrimination (ok, gender identity is not openly specified but we’re working towards it).
Refugees are welcome.
So this bill included misogyny as a hate crime. Was misandry there as well?
AHAHA Guardian can go f itself
Can somebody with understanding of the Italian Law tell me the Use of this law? Seems to me the criminal law of Italy already forbid violence so why make this law?
this law was garbage, teaching sex to 8/9 years kids. a real shame. it is good it did not pass
my kid is 7 and knows nothing abouy sex and genders. still believes in Santa. why should she attend LGTB+ events and get mixed up. basta con l’ipocrisia… ma di che cosa stiamo parlando. if you are gay just be gay, my best friend is gay and we are perfectly cool. why to involve kids? i have no problem with anybody and love and respect all people no matter what. but this law is just bullshit.
I can only suggest that people don’t travel to Italy and don’t buy Italy goods/foods/etc… this is what would sting the most…