What are some non-partisan and scientific solutions to prevent forest fires in California, especially near populated areas?

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by wakeup2019

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  1. Plant native and get rid of your lawn. Don’t develop in areas prone to natural disasters aka where insurance companies don’t even offer insurance.

  2. Your post asks about forest fires but the LA fires have mostly impacted urban and suburban areas. Build homes out of concrete and use native lawns, like the ones you tend to see more these days in Arizona.

  3. Pass building codes that require homes in fire prone areas to be built out of concrete or other nonflammable materials..

  4. Don’t build wood-frame houses in areas routinely endangered by fires.

  5. Tell them to fucking move. Really. There’s too many people there for the natural resources, like the natural water supply, to support.

  6. We can’t. We need to build smarter. We need to admitted  CA can’t be tamed it so we have to defend against it.urban Sprawl and horrible zoning and NiMbY. We can’t defend these communities with how spread out they are in some of the most challenging populated terrain in the US. The water system in particular in CA is worth investigating the corrupt capitalism that has stolen from the citizens of America and CA for way to long in a completely legal ongoing heist. We must adapt to the new reality. Some farming will have to go to regions better suited for its water needs

  7. I heard one problem was the water system was adequate for putting out fired but not for the WHOLE neighborhood being on fire.

    I wonder if a fire suppression system that can draw from nearby seawater might increase capacity.

  9. Building codes, increased property taxes earmarked to fire prevention, and just general proactive measures. I saw a post earlier that it’s possible to require all pools in a municipality to have backfeed into to the city hydrant system. There is no one fix, but if the goal is to prevent these or reduce their effects then the resources are available.

  11. Uh. Idk if you guys know this. But without humans, forest fires and wildfires are still a normal ecological cog in the wheel.

    Happens naturally. Dont believe me? Just look into “forest fires and the benefit of this natural occurrence”

    You can come up with solutions all you want, but at the end of it all, you can’t stop naturally occurring processes. You can only mitigate losses.

  12. I heard a story that all the homes with fire sprinkler systems caused water pressure problems. As the sprinkler systems became compromised, the water lines stayed open. Maybe fire sprinkler systems need to be the dry kind rather than wet kind. But of course that means more regulations and will slow down the rebuild and probably add costs.

  13. Maybe we implement proper forest and water management policies.

  15. Start undoing 120 years of poor forest management and don’t let the NIMBYism stop it. 

  16. Classes for adults on how they can help, prepare and evacuate per their community plans (i.e. not leaving cars on streets if they abandon cars)

  19. Building codes that focus on fire resistance.

    redesigning suburban areas to include firebreaks between groups of homes / businesses

  20. Prescribed burns, shaded fuel breaks, home hardening, road design, individual home owner maintenance, plant selection, buffering zones etc. state fire marshal and state wildfire task force have resources for your question.

  21. I live in Western fire country. The standard needs are well-funded fire departments, extra water storage, requiring steel roofs on homes, screened soffit vents, clearing flammable shrubs like juniper from yards, close proximity to hydrants, etc..

    In short, more taxes and regulations. Building codes, firefighters, aircraft, reservoirs…

  22. It’s a shame the term “non-partisan” needs to be included in this conversation.

    Science, by definition, IS non-partisan. It has only become partisan because one political party has decided to make it partisan.

    There is not a silver bullet solution. There are many things that can be done to prevent, or at least mitigate, wildfires. But, one political party is not willing to even discuss most of those solutions.

  23. The newer homes in Southern California are all stuck up with clay roofs and have sprinkler systems in the house

  24. Stop insuring these homes and don’t give out loans without insurance. Eventually, people will stop building there. 

  25. Stop building in these areas. The Federal Government needs to step in. Highly vegetated hills that invite hurricane force dry Santa Anna winds each year is no place to build homes. They should have never let those folks rebuild in those areas below sea level after Katrina. Either Feds do it or the insurance companies will.

  27. Build sisterns to capture water, like most places in the world. Require all homes to have gutters that feed the sisterns. Also, fireproofing homes and landscaping within reason.

  29. We need more prescribed burns but companies that make money from fighting fires are lobbying against it.

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