‘The Flash’ Director Andy Muschietti Says the Film Flopped Because ‘It Wasn’t a Movie That Appealed to the Four-Quadrants. It Failed at That’

https://variety.com/2025/film/news/andy-muschietti-the-flash-flopped-four-quadrants-dc-warner-bros-1236272522/

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  1. “it “failed” to hit “all four quadrants” of moviegoer demographics, (men over 25, men under 25, women over 25, women under 25)”

    so he’s basically saying the movie appealed to no one?

    he right

  2. He thinks the flash isn’t a very likable character… yeah he’s right, his flash is garbage.

  3. I didn’t watch it purely because of the lead actor.

    Fuck that guy.

  4. The lead, didn’t do anything to positively promote the movie, either.

    Seemed like up until the movie launched, Ezra was constantly behaving strangely and disturbingly. Which, I think also turned a lot of people off from wanting to see it, and rewarding the bad behavior.

  6. HAHAHHAAHA this is bold after the spectacle Ezra made of himself? The way they completely tanked the DCU and made the fans give up on it?

  7. So they learned nothing of value? Terrible choice for lead actor, terribly adapted story (I love Flashpoint), awful CGI, awful fan service (I’m a bit of a sucker for fan service but this was dumb), and the DC film universe was doomed from the beginning so no one cared. Supergirl was cool, Keaton was cool, the supermarket scene was surprisingly emotional, but otherwise it was completely terrible.

  8. That’s like saying that the film didn’t succeed because the film didn’t succeed.

  9. It doesn’t help that the star is basically a terrorist

  10. The Lead actor was bad for the movie, as well as all of the reshoots/rewrites hurt the movie. Pushing the release date did not help matters either

  14. I only saw this because Michael Keaton was back as Batman

  15. it failed because you chose to put your faith in ‘star power’ over the simplest of graphics then you doubled down on the ‘star’ who showed they weren’t deserving of that title. no one finds the quirky witty act believable if we know he’s insufferable in real life.

  16. I think it failed for more than a few reasons, but I’ll keep to the main one:

    – the star of the film who isn’t even a well known actor was wanted by the police leading up to the premiere of the film

  17. There was an insane amount of quotes of famous people saying “this is the best film I’ve ever seen” all over Reddit days before release.

    Then saw some clips on TikTok and thought it was a fan film or parody. Then I saw it in HBO.. it’s legit one of the worst films I’ve seen.

  18. I know I’m in the minority but I thought ezra killed it. Personally thought it was great

  19. So when James Gunn said it was the best super hero movie ever made!

    Thats the equivalent of “My mom says im cool!”

  20. That’s technically correct. No on in the four quadrants liked the film.

  21. This is a…bizarre take. I don’t see any real reason that the Flash would innately have a more narrow appeal than any of the other tremendously successful superhero movies we’ve seen. Saying the Flash is not as well loved as Batman, one of the most recognizable characters in media, is a ludicrous excuse. Especially when you added in Batman and made him arguably the focal point of your marketing. And that women in particular don’t find him appealing?

    Saying people didn’t care about the character is just a terrible excuse. It’s your job to make them care. You’re saying that even though you got one of the biggest IPs available, it wasn’t big enough so you didn’t have a shot. Saying your IP wasn’t big enough to break a billion dollars is defensible, but this movie was a titanic bomb.

    The movie wasn’t good, your star was unmarketable to put it mildly, and DC already announced they were rebooting you before it came out.

  22. This movie took one of the most important DC Comics storylines and completely destroyed it. There are animated DC movies of this that are better.

  23. Four quadrants.
    1. Entertaining
    2. Good story
    3. Good acting
    4. Pretty

    Yup, It failed all 4 quadrants…

  25. Bro, you all had your lead actor in the news for all the wrong reasons for about 6 months leading up to it. I didn’t see the movie almost completely because of that. WB wasn’t willing to punish him for all that shit? Fuck outta here

  27. It failed because of the huge creep who looks like a Polar Express character with buccal fat removal

  28. It was so much more than a bad lead.

    I’m very bummed that the same director is helming the new Batman.

  29. It tried so hard to tie-in Michela Keaton’s batman for nostalgia bait. Zod is even there which is odd for a flash film.

  30. “Muschietti went on to say that behind closed doors, he found people “don’t care” about the Flash as much as other beloved DC icons like Batman or Superman.”

    Seems like muschi is a asshole, suddenly it’s the flash’s fault

  31. It wasn’t because it sucked, no. It was the audiences fault for not going to it.

  32. yeah blame the audince for your shit movie… that is the way to go

  33. The double whammy of Ezra Miller and early word of mouth that it was ass

  35. Ezra Miller. Bad CGI. Stupid story.

    It wasn’t a good movie

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