Should teach kids things that are useful not more brain rot.
Good. Children that age don’t need to know about gender theories.
Annoying that we have to have news articles saying X is not on a primary school curriculum because we have a bunch of idiots online trying to fear monger.
This is all distraction. Nothing has changed, they’re just distracting you from *gestures to everything*
The Gender Recognition Act has been law for nearly a decade. Very disappointing that there’s still an attitude in favour of hiding the existence of transgender people from children.
Disappointing but not unsurprising
Why would it be on the primary school curriculum at all? Isn’t biology and sex ed usually kept for secondary school? Don’t get me wrong, I have two primary kids and they both know that sometimes men want to marry other men instead of women and they both know that sometimes a person might want to change from a man to a woman. They understand the first one because girls are gross. They can’t comprehend the second one for the same reason. What else do they need to know at that age?
Edit: Seems things have changed a little from when I was a boy. Kids now get the birds and the bees talk in primary school instead of from their parents. That makes it a bit trickier. But I still don’t know why you would bring a conversation about gender and sexuality into a lesson about the mechanics of puberty and reproduction. On the other hand, kids might have questions about those topics that teachers would need to handle so it might be best to include them.
Why is this even a story? What ‘journalist’ feels this is something worth reporting?
how dare they not give me something to be outraged about?
What is this country coming to?
Sex education was always coloured by the views of the person delivering it when I was in school. Lead to some pretty bleak lectures from some very religious people. Maybe this should be contracted in and delivered by an outside dedicated unit.
> By contrast, other focus group participants said sexuality education should be taught at home by parents rather than at school. It was stated family and religious values could be affected by such a programme and it could “cause a big split within classes”.
The people who think sex education shouldn’t be taught in schools are also the people I would least trust to teach children adequate sex education at home.
My 6 year olds understand gender idenity there’s really no need to leave it out its not difficult to understand and it doesn’t confuse them. If you ask them they’ll tell you exactly what they are if they trust you and know youll accept them they’ll tell you. I’ve only seen it get “confusing” when they don’t feel safe around someone and feel they need to not say it out loud because they aren’t around safe people.
There’s 2 genders.
That’s all that needs to be said lol
Lol ireland is doomed.
Good, doesn’t belong there anyways.
Good
My friend’s kids are like 4 and 3, and they’re able to describe themselves “girls”, they’re not even in primary yet and they’ve already got the concept.
I don’t know why adults in this country think that primary school is too early to explain this.
An odd thing to leave out, it’s an easy to grasp concept and is a great starting point for teaching about boundaries and consent not to mention the benefits to people who grow up to be gnc and for helping to grow acceptance and greater knowledge on queer identities.
I’m sure there will be people who celebrate it rather out of ignorance or malice but something like this makes Ireland a worse place and can make kids less safe despite what clickbait articles and right wing propaganda would have people believe.
Sex education and education about consent should always happen in the classroom and be mandatory
I was pulled out of school every day there was a planned sex Ed talk in primary and secondary school, I was also being abused at home. Maybe if I’d been there I’d have realised what was happening wasn’t normal for everyone.
Parents need to be responsible and teach your kids sex education, you can’t assume the state is doing a good job of it.
I love how the instant reaction is “they’re too young”, when the primary curriculum extends all the way to about 12 years of age.
5th and 6th class are definitely an appropriate time.
All schools have recently added transphobic and gender based bullying to their anti bullying policies. It seems very unfair to potentially punish kids for being transphobic, when they haven’t been taught what it is and that there’s nothing wrong with it.
Keep in mind, schools are responsible for online bullying as well, and it wouldn’t even have to involve another child in the school (source: prior experience with the Gardaí telling my school to deal with a case of a child in my class harassing someone online) so while the chances of them having a trans child in their class who they bully is low, they could easily find someone online and have a go at them. Unlike in person bullying, a one off incident online can count as bullying.
This decision will cause a lot of problems.
Anecdotally a very mundane parent in my school had a rant about Sex Ed for primary schools and how they thought it was inappropriate…Same parent gave their 7/8 year old son a phone for Christmas with Snapchat
Not a surprise after some of the more recent, public discourse around education.
It’s funny how people have fought so hard to reduce the grip of religion in schools and are now fighting to replace it with another ideology. Because that’s all it is, a faith, a belief.
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Should teach kids things that are useful not more brain rot.
Good. Children that age don’t need to know about gender theories.
Annoying that we have to have news articles saying X is not on a primary school curriculum because we have a bunch of idiots online trying to fear monger.
This is all distraction. Nothing has changed, they’re just distracting you from *gestures to everything*
The Gender Recognition Act has been law for nearly a decade. Very disappointing that there’s still an attitude in favour of hiding the existence of transgender people from children.
Disappointing but not unsurprising
Why would it be on the primary school curriculum at all? Isn’t biology and sex ed usually kept for secondary school? Don’t get me wrong, I have two primary kids and they both know that sometimes men want to marry other men instead of women and they both know that sometimes a person might want to change from a man to a woman. They understand the first one because girls are gross. They can’t comprehend the second one for the same reason. What else do they need to know at that age?
Edit: Seems things have changed a little from when I was a boy. Kids now get the birds and the bees talk in primary school instead of from their parents. That makes it a bit trickier. But I still don’t know why you would bring a conversation about gender and sexuality into a lesson about the mechanics of puberty and reproduction. On the other hand, kids might have questions about those topics that teachers would need to handle so it might be best to include them.
Why is this even a story? What ‘journalist’ feels this is something worth reporting?
how dare they not give me something to be outraged about?
What is this country coming to?
Sex education was always coloured by the views of the person delivering it when I was in school. Lead to some pretty bleak lectures from some very religious people. Maybe this should be contracted in and delivered by an outside dedicated unit.
> By contrast, other focus group participants said sexuality education should be taught at home by parents rather than at school. It was stated family and religious values could be affected by such a programme and it could “cause a big split within classes”.
The people who think sex education shouldn’t be taught in schools are also the people I would least trust to teach children adequate sex education at home.
My 6 year olds understand gender idenity there’s really no need to leave it out its not difficult to understand and it doesn’t confuse them. If you ask them they’ll tell you exactly what they are if they trust you and know youll accept them they’ll tell you. I’ve only seen it get “confusing” when they don’t feel safe around someone and feel they need to not say it out loud because they aren’t around safe people.
There’s 2 genders.
That’s all that needs to be said lol
Lol ireland is doomed.
Good, doesn’t belong there anyways.
Good
My friend’s kids are like 4 and 3, and they’re able to describe themselves “girls”, they’re not even in primary yet and they’ve already got the concept.
I don’t know why adults in this country think that primary school is too early to explain this.
An odd thing to leave out, it’s an easy to grasp concept and is a great starting point for teaching about boundaries and consent not to mention the benefits to people who grow up to be gnc and for helping to grow acceptance and greater knowledge on queer identities.
I’m sure there will be people who celebrate it rather out of ignorance or malice but something like this makes Ireland a worse place and can make kids less safe despite what clickbait articles and right wing propaganda would have people believe.
Sex education and education about consent should always happen in the classroom and be mandatory
I was pulled out of school every day there was a planned sex Ed talk in primary and secondary school, I was also being abused at home. Maybe if I’d been there I’d have realised what was happening wasn’t normal for everyone.
Parents need to be responsible and teach your kids sex education, you can’t assume the state is doing a good job of it.
I love how the instant reaction is “they’re too young”, when the primary curriculum extends all the way to about 12 years of age.
5th and 6th class are definitely an appropriate time.
All schools have recently added transphobic and gender based bullying to their anti bullying policies. It seems very unfair to potentially punish kids for being transphobic, when they haven’t been taught what it is and that there’s nothing wrong with it.
Keep in mind, schools are responsible for online bullying as well, and it wouldn’t even have to involve another child in the school (source: prior experience with the Gardaí telling my school to deal with a case of a child in my class harassing someone online) so while the chances of them having a trans child in their class who they bully is low, they could easily find someone online and have a go at them. Unlike in person bullying, a one off incident online can count as bullying.
This decision will cause a lot of problems.
Anecdotally a very mundane parent in my school had a rant about Sex Ed for primary schools and how they thought it was inappropriate…Same parent gave their 7/8 year old son a phone for Christmas with Snapchat
Not a surprise after some of the more recent, public discourse around education.
It’s funny how people have fought so hard to reduce the grip of religion in schools and are now fighting to replace it with another ideology. Because that’s all it is, a faith, a belief.
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