Special Counsel Report Says Trump Would Have Been Convicted in Election Case

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/14/us/politics/trump-special-counsel-report-election-jan-6.html

40 comments

  1. You had him, and you blew it. Shame on you all. And now we have to pay for it

  5. what a joke – hard to not be black pilled after seeing shit like this.

    “We would have convicted him, but darn it! We spent two years playing patty cakes and just missed him.”

  6. Merrick Garland will go down as the worst AG in US history.

  7. Merrick garland waiting til late 2022 to appoint someone is gross negligence and could be the biggest mistake in American history

  8. Why was the justice department so lackadaisical? It’s the clearest and most obvious case of election fraud anyone’s ever seen. Pathetic.

  9. [PDF Page 144 & 145. ](https://static01.nyt.com/newsgraphics/documenttools/76c2c1e8fe2e5ae7/d2d77a9c-full.pdf)

    >VI. CONCLUSION

    >On remand from the Supreme Court’s decision in Trump, the district court set a litigation schedule whereby the parties would submit briefs regarding whether any material in the superseding indictment was subject to presidential immunity. ECF No. 233. The parties were in the middle of that process when the results of the presidential election made clear that Mr. Trump would be inaugurated as President of the United States on January 20, 2025. As described above, it has long been the Department’s interpretation that the Constitution forbids the federal indictment and prosecution of a sitting President, but the election results raised for the first time the question of the lawful course when a private citizen who has already been indicted is then elected President. The Department determined that the case must be dismissed without prejudice before Mr. Trump takes office, and the Office therefore moved to dismiss the indictment on November 25, 2024. See ECF No. 281. The district court granted the motion the same day. ECF No. 283.

    >The Department’s view that the Constitution prohibits the continued indictment and prosecution of a President is categorical and does not tum on the gravity of the crimes charged, the strength of the Government’s proof, or the merits of the prosecution, which the Office stands fully behind. Indeed, but for Mr. Trump’s election and imminent return to the Presidency, the Office assessed that the admissible evidence was sufficient to obtain and sustain a conviction at trial.

  10. So he’s guilty, but now all of a sudden everyone in our government agrees that the President is, in fact, above the law.

    What a terrible outcome.

  11. I’m going to read this but no shit

    Jack Smith wouldn’t have indicted an ex-president without having an absolute slam dunk case. Throw in the DOJs consistently high conviction rate of over 90% and this bitch of a president elect would be in prison

    The media spent more time talking about whether Joe Biden was qualified to be president (I’m not ignoring how old he is- it was a problem) than how fucking insanely guilty Trump likely was of multiple insane crimes. From trying to overthrow an election to what he did with classified docs. Ask any member of the military about what happens if you fuck around with that latter at any level

    Our country is a god damn sham

  12. Fat lotta fucking good it does now. How bout don’t play with your dicks for 4 years and get someone on trial next time

  13. I think everyone outside the US knew that.

    And then you elected him President.

    Yikes

  15. Should have started investigating and court filings Jan 7th, 2021.

    The whole attitude between 2021 and 2023 was “well, what Trump did was really wrong; but he won’t be involved in politics again, so we’ll just say lesson learned.” Then in 2023 when Trump did start his campaign, the ramped up the investigation which had (undeserved?) taint of interference.

  16. If anyone doubted that the American justice system is a sham, here you go. Trump deserves to die in prison and we’ve not only made him president, but absolved him of accountability.

  17. If the law doesn’t apply to the president then you’ve essentially made trump king

  18. Then why in the fuck wasn’t he?

    Supreme Court ruling be damned, challenge it. Push forward, make them double-down on this “immunity” bullshit.

  20. Well well well, just in time for nothing to be done about it.

    Can we retroactively enact the 14th amendment and bar him from office, triggering a new election? I feel like that’s the only fair way to do this thing.

  21. Merrick Garland should be investigated for obstruction of justice.

    His actions appear to be sheer incompetence and stupidity of World historical magnitude. However when a fuckup is this large, you have to start wondering if there is more going on behind the scenes that caused him to slow roll this investigation to such a staggering degree.

    A full investigation into whether Merrick had incentives to not appoint a special counsel until far after was necessary, should be undertaken.

  22. Ahhh, America. Where everyone keeps guns because “what if evil government?” And then do literally nothing, even legally speaking, to prevent their democracy from a hostile takeover. What’s it actually going to take for anyone to hold any one of these fucks accountable? General strikes, even? “Ohhhhh we can’t what if we get sick and don’t have health insurance” yeah like the alternative of watching the trainwreck is so much better. Your shit is so cancerous that it bleeds into other countries and now your felon of a president is threatening allies. What’s it gonna take? Is he going to have to drag you into war on your allies before you do anything? Would you even do anything about it *then*?

  27. Bull fucking SHIT!

    CONVICT THIS FUCKING TRAITOR NOW.

    This is insane.

  28. Sadly as an American here myself the country is truly divided. We have those who want to help their fellow citizens and want things like universal healthcare/college tuition and for the government to use our huge GDP for their people and the country. Instead unfortunately, our streets/subways are shit, if you don’t have money you die with our healthcare system, and half the people are so misinformed/uneducated that we are fighting each other instead of the billionaires that figured out how to play our government and us it’s people. I mean one side some members believe the other side can control weather for their benefit…..

  30. We are truly living through some unprecedented events. The ripple effects of this will be felt for years.

  31. No shite?!

    We are on the slippery slope.

    Anyone awake?

  32. America is no longer a world leader… they’re just a war away from being Russia. Europe is laughing.

  35. Oh, so you mean to tell me that the same conclusion from the Robert Mueller case, basically if he wasn’t president or ex-president, he’d be convicted and thrown in jail?

    Trump will never be in real trouble for anything, why even bother? Social media own the young and old, and the republicans are the top dog there. There is nothing you can do, they have managed to change what is facts and truth. No one will believe anything is real, except what is put on social media.

  36. I feel like most people are missing the point that if he ever leaves office, he’s subject to prosecution if new evidence emerges, which it inevitably will. Trump will NEVER leave office now, we saw how he tried last time. That was the end

  37. Thanks Joe Biden. You really owned Mitch with that AG pick. I’m sure Mitch is still seething at how you were able to make Garland the Attorney General.  He’ll probably never get over that humiliation.  Nice job, Joe. You owned him good!

  38. Of course he would’ve, that’s why they did everything possible to delay trial, it was literally their strategy the entire time.

  39. I’ve just fully embraced nihilism and it’s working surprisingly well

  40. It’s a disgrace. Fuck Trump and MAGA and everyone that enables this fascist shit.

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