I’m not entirely surprised. I worked at another local private school in the area and it was chaos in the mornings with cars parked or generally stuck in traffic made worse by the coaches. To be fair the school did what they could but so many cars in such a small space is bound to increase pollution.
Live in the area and it’s very similar with all the schools around here. The state catholic school up the road from me is absolute chaos in the morning – cars everywhere stopping in the middle of the road, doing u-turns etc
Well, duh. South London has terrible public transport and people have been begging for it to be developed for decades.
And before I get downvoted to hell about this being about posh kids: the district line gets absolutely full with kids in the morning going to the schools in South Kensington.
Not at all surprised to read this. Parents at my kids school park atrociously and many of them live closer to the school than we do.
Bet these campaigners / article writers never had to walk past Kingsdale on foot or get off at West Dulwich station. Not surprised parents drive their kids. Granted I don’t know if the situation has changed much over the past 1-2 decades. 17% by car seems low considering it has junior school where kids won’t be travelling alone…so either walking with parents or driving in.
More people would be willing to let their children walk and bike to school if London weren’t quite so
[insert first reason that comes to mind]
I used to live near there, -ish. Or put another way: anywhere else in Britain I’d say I was just down the road, but such is London’s gridlock even short distances become very long.
Notice how we don’t get any data for how much pollution is caused by local state schools. Classic Guardian fare.
Talk about transparency and propaganda! LOL
People who take this seriously will definitely benefit from neurolink
As an old Dunstonian, can I just say Dulwich wankers
Maybe with the VAT change more private school kids will have to get the bus x
From the Article, “The data for Croxted Road in Herne Hill during morning rush hours found nitrogen dioxide pollution went up by 16% when state schools were open but by 47% when both state and private schools were open – an increase of 27% despite private schools accounting for only half as many pupils.”
The issue is not so binary. I expect that the combination of both state and private schools generates sufficient traffic to overload the local streets. The data for when private schools are open and state schools not needs to be considered to draw a more accurate conclusion.
As another local, Croxted Road is a shit show for congestion and becomes almost gridlocked when there is too much traffic.
Also, the data is from Herne Hill end of Croxted Road according to the article rather than the West Dulwich end.
I don’t want to drum up sympathy for parents of private school children as this will enrage Reddit, but the issue is also that children from all over London will travel to private schools such as Dulwich Collage. I think that private schools should be encouraged to prioritise local applicants to reduce pollution (not at least because this would be great for my house price 😉).
This resonates with my experience with a502 near golders Green. There’s a private school on the hill there and it’s pretty bad. My big gripe is the size of the cars are getting out of hand. SUVs eat up the whole road.
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I’m not entirely surprised. I worked at another local private school in the area and it was chaos in the mornings with cars parked or generally stuck in traffic made worse by the coaches. To be fair the school did what they could but so many cars in such a small space is bound to increase pollution.
Live in the area and it’s very similar with all the schools around here. The state catholic school up the road from me is absolute chaos in the morning – cars everywhere stopping in the middle of the road, doing u-turns etc
Well, duh. South London has terrible public transport and people have been begging for it to be developed for decades.
And before I get downvoted to hell about this being about posh kids: the district line gets absolutely full with kids in the morning going to the schools in South Kensington.
Not at all surprised to read this. Parents at my kids school park atrociously and many of them live closer to the school than we do.
Bet these campaigners / article writers never had to walk past Kingsdale on foot or get off at West Dulwich station. Not surprised parents drive their kids. Granted I don’t know if the situation has changed much over the past 1-2 decades. 17% by car seems low considering it has junior school where kids won’t be travelling alone…so either walking with parents or driving in.
More people would be willing to let their children walk and bike to school if London weren’t quite so
[insert first reason that comes to mind]
I used to live near there, -ish. Or put another way: anywhere else in Britain I’d say I was just down the road, but such is London’s gridlock even short distances become very long.
Notice how we don’t get any data for how much pollution is caused by local state schools. Classic Guardian fare.
Talk about transparency and propaganda! LOL
People who take this seriously will definitely benefit from neurolink
As an old Dunstonian, can I just say Dulwich wankers
Maybe with the VAT change more private school kids will have to get the bus x
From the Article, “The data for Croxted Road in Herne Hill during morning rush hours found nitrogen dioxide pollution went up by 16% when state schools were open but by 47% when both state and private schools were open – an increase of 27% despite private schools accounting for only half as many pupils.”
The issue is not so binary. I expect that the combination of both state and private schools generates sufficient traffic to overload the local streets. The data for when private schools are open and state schools not needs to be considered to draw a more accurate conclusion.
As another local, Croxted Road is a shit show for congestion and becomes almost gridlocked when there is too much traffic.
Also, the data is from Herne Hill end of Croxted Road according to the article rather than the West Dulwich end.
I don’t want to drum up sympathy for parents of private school children as this will enrage Reddit, but the issue is also that children from all over London will travel to private schools such as Dulwich Collage. I think that private schools should be encouraged to prioritise local applicants to reduce pollution (not at least because this would be great for my house price 😉).
This resonates with my experience with a502 near golders Green. There’s a private school on the hill there and it’s pretty bad. My big gripe is the size of the cars are getting out of hand. SUVs eat up the whole road.
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