Portugal + central and east Europe on tier 2? Is he ok?
It’s the EU’s fault really. As long as we don’t work as a bloc, we won’t be treated as one.
We should be negotiating with the U.S as a bloc. Everything is either applied to all of the EU or not at all. The same with visas, the same with taxes.
Either we’re a union, or we aren’t. Allowing them to treat some of us as third world and others not is just overall bad for everyone in the EU.
Every time I see this iron curtain mentality still hold in western minds my hope for any sort of hypothetical NATO support suffers a bit.
watch this shit get thrown into the bin within a month of the next presidency
Tf did we do
In Romania we barely got into the visa waiver program this year after decades of being “strategic partners” of the US. They will continue to treat as as second tier country, no surprise. Not sure about the rest of the Tier 2 countries of Europe.
At this point it’s weird they didn’t divide Germany
Why Poland? Isn’t it one of USA greatest allies and strongly anti-russia and anti-china?
The EU is really missing any AI hardware company, even startups with niche products, to have any influence here.
On the other end the EU is also missing any large AI software company so it’s not like it actually matters that companies can’t buy 100k GPUs.
Given the world.leader in microchip printing tech is still Dutch, this would be an interesting approach…
probably good for the rest of the world in the long run; this is how you get other nations to develop it natively instead of buying american
Are we in 1950?
I really wonder why Greenland and Iceland are yellow, Greenland should at the very least be the same colour as Denmark, and Iceland is basically just like the other nordic nations.
Funny how Greenland is tier 2 while Denmark is tier 1.
That’s where the real NATO is. And Putin will see it.
Yemen at same level as Poland or Portugal. OK….
All the more reason for Europe to build its own chip foundries. Europe makes the equipment that goes into them after all.
Denmark blue, Greenland yellow? xD
Not that they’d buy much, but I don’t understand why is Cambodia tier 3?!
im suprised they put france on blue tbh
This is how you get China to speedrun in the semiconductor industry, something that they STILL haven’t been doing as of late. If the PRC cannot buy chip machines from the Netherlands anymore, it effectively means that they will do everything they can to make sure that they can make those machines on their own.
Of course, some will believe that the Chinese are inherently uncreative people, unable to make these highly complex machines. But if the Chinese put their minds to something, they will figure it out.
Even American semiconductor companies have called this policy stupid.
Wow thanks US, you really show your trust in your allies don’t you?
Greenland, but not Denmark. Lol
EU should collectively condemn USA for treating half of Europe as less worthy countries. Baltics and Poland have been some of the most loyal US allies and this is how demented retards in Washington repay us. We in Estonia spend 3% of GDP on military, have participated in missions in Afghanistan and Iraq, have shown resolute support for Ukraine and opposition to Russian aggression.
Great “allies”…
Fucking Switzerland? Seriously?
Pan
It will be interesting to see how Switzerland will react to this.
I just really dont care what US us trying not to ship here
With friends like these, who needs enemies?
When the first good enough lithography machine is built outside the tier 1, the game is on. You have to be delusional to actually believe this can be stopped. Is just not so much interest now but is clearly getting more speed. Didn’t OpenAI bought some Israeli Ai developer? Man, people will always research all over the world. We would ride diligence now and not fly in planes if was different.
Israel, arguably the one country the US would blow up the entire world for, is also tier 2. So all the people whining about Poland, there are obvious reasons for tier 2 status that even the closest US allies get.
>Restrictive Tiers
>The vast majority of countries fall into the second tier of restrictions, which establishes maximum levels of computing power that can go to any one nation — equivalent to about 50,000 graphic processing units, or GPUs, from 2025 to 2027, the people said. But individual companies can access significantly higher limits — that grow over time — if they apply for VEU status in each country where they wish to build data centers.
>Getting that approval requires a demonstrated track record of meeting US government security and human rights standards, or at least a credible plan for doing so. Security requirements span physical, cyber and personnel concerns. If companies obtain national VEU status, their chip imports won’t count against the maximum totals for that country — a measure to encourage firms to work with the US government and adopt American AI standards.
Hungary is not on the Russian tier? The guy literally never misses a chance to tell the EU he’s Putin’s bitch.
USA is just not trustworthy ally. They are always up to something shady. Similar big bully as Russia. Europe should start looking out for itself.
Tier 1 has the Five Eyes, the countries integral to making chips (Spain, France, and Italy for raw materials; Germany, the Netherlands, South Korea, Japan, and of course Taiwan for processing), Ireland because the big US companies have their European offices there, and then I guess Belgium and the Nordics because diplomacy.
Though Norway is increasingly important for raw materials, the other three I’m not sure about.
Given the EU law on AI I am surprised the entire EU isn’t tier 3…
Cyprus is red and northern one is yellow?
Shall we start to archive the currently accessible ml models too?
Did Poland so dirty
Daily reminder why we need an independent, united Europe, without international influence taking advantage of us.
Tier 2gal
What is interesting is most all semiconductor chips are produced in the restricted countries. Same goes for mining necessary resources.
If any of those countries applies similar tactics used by Saudi Arabia in 1973 there’s going to be hell to pay.
Well boys… Time to invade the USA, I guess.
Tier 2 countries will still be able to buy AI chips, they just will have limits for them. The max threshold is way above what Poland currently needs
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Source: [https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-01-08/biden-to-further-limit-nvidia-amd-ai-chip-exports-in-final-push](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-01-08/biden-to-further-limit-nvidia-amd-ai-chip-exports-in-final-push)
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Portugal + central and east Europe on tier 2? Is he ok?
It’s the EU’s fault really. As long as we don’t work as a bloc, we won’t be treated as one.
We should be negotiating with the U.S as a bloc. Everything is either applied to all of the EU or not at all. The same with visas, the same with taxes.
Either we’re a union, or we aren’t. Allowing them to treat some of us as third world and others not is just overall bad for everyone in the EU.
Every time I see this iron curtain mentality still hold in western minds my hope for any sort of hypothetical NATO support suffers a bit.
watch this shit get thrown into the bin within a month of the next presidency
Tf did we do
In Romania we barely got into the visa waiver program this year after decades of being “strategic partners” of the US. They will continue to treat as as second tier country, no surprise. Not sure about the rest of the Tier 2 countries of Europe.
At this point it’s weird they didn’t divide Germany
Why Poland? Isn’t it one of USA greatest allies and strongly anti-russia and anti-china?
The EU is really missing any AI hardware company, even startups with niche products, to have any influence here.
On the other end the EU is also missing any large AI software company so it’s not like it actually matters that companies can’t buy 100k GPUs.
Given the world.leader in microchip printing tech is still Dutch, this would be an interesting approach…
probably good for the rest of the world in the long run; this is how you get other nations to develop it natively instead of buying american
Are we in 1950?
I really wonder why Greenland and Iceland are yellow, Greenland should at the very least be the same colour as Denmark, and Iceland is basically just like the other nordic nations.
Funny how Greenland is tier 2 while Denmark is tier 1.
That’s where the real NATO is. And Putin will see it.
Yemen at same level as Poland or Portugal. OK….
All the more reason for Europe to build its own chip foundries. Europe makes the equipment that goes into them after all.
Denmark blue, Greenland yellow? xD
Not that they’d buy much, but I don’t understand why is Cambodia tier 3?!
im suprised they put france on blue tbh
This is how you get China to speedrun in the semiconductor industry, something that they STILL haven’t been doing as of late. If the PRC cannot buy chip machines from the Netherlands anymore, it effectively means that they will do everything they can to make sure that they can make those machines on their own.
Of course, some will believe that the Chinese are inherently uncreative people, unable to make these highly complex machines. But if the Chinese put their minds to something, they will figure it out.
Even American semiconductor companies have called this policy stupid.
Wow thanks US, you really show your trust in your allies don’t you?
Greenland, but not Denmark. Lol
EU should collectively condemn USA for treating half of Europe as less worthy countries. Baltics and Poland have been some of the most loyal US allies and this is how demented retards in Washington repay us. We in Estonia spend 3% of GDP on military, have participated in missions in Afghanistan and Iraq, have shown resolute support for Ukraine and opposition to Russian aggression.
Great “allies”…
Fucking Switzerland? Seriously?
Pan
It will be interesting to see how Switzerland will react to this.
I just really dont care what US us trying not to ship here
With friends like these, who needs enemies?
When the first good enough lithography machine is built outside the tier 1, the game is on. You have to be delusional to actually believe this can be stopped. Is just not so much interest now but is clearly getting more speed. Didn’t OpenAI bought some Israeli Ai developer? Man, people will always research all over the world. We would ride diligence now and not fly in planes if was different.
Israel, arguably the one country the US would blow up the entire world for, is also tier 2. So all the people whining about Poland, there are obvious reasons for tier 2 status that even the closest US allies get.
>Restrictive Tiers
>The vast majority of countries fall into the second tier of restrictions, which establishes maximum levels of computing power that can go to any one nation — equivalent to about 50,000 graphic processing units, or GPUs, from 2025 to 2027, the people said. But individual companies can access significantly higher limits — that grow over time — if they apply for VEU status in each country where they wish to build data centers.
>Getting that approval requires a demonstrated track record of meeting US government security and human rights standards, or at least a credible plan for doing so. Security requirements span physical, cyber and personnel concerns. If companies obtain national VEU status, their chip imports won’t count against the maximum totals for that country — a measure to encourage firms to work with the US government and adopt American AI standards.
Hungary is not on the Russian tier? The guy literally never misses a chance to tell the EU he’s Putin’s bitch.
USA is just not trustworthy ally. They are always up to something shady. Similar big bully as Russia. Europe should start looking out for itself.
Tier 1 has the Five Eyes, the countries integral to making chips (Spain, France, and Italy for raw materials; Germany, the Netherlands, South Korea, Japan, and of course Taiwan for processing), Ireland because the big US companies have their European offices there, and then I guess Belgium and the Nordics because diplomacy.
Though Norway is increasingly important for raw materials, the other three I’m not sure about.
Given the EU law on AI I am surprised the entire EU isn’t tier 3…
Cyprus is red and northern one is yellow?
Shall we start to archive the currently accessible ml models too?
Did Poland so dirty
Daily reminder why we need an independent, united Europe, without international influence taking advantage of us.
Tier 2gal
What is interesting is most all semiconductor chips are produced in the restricted countries. Same goes for mining necessary resources.
If any of those countries applies similar tactics used by Saudi Arabia in 1973 there’s going to be hell to pay.
Well boys… Time to invade the USA, I guess.
Tier 2 countries will still be able to buy AI chips, they just will have limits for them. The max threshold is way above what Poland currently needs
Here’s an article on this from Polish perspective
[https://www-komputerswiat-pl.translate.goog/artykuly/redakcyjne/polska-odcieta-od-kluczowych-technologii-usa-w-teorii-tak-w-praktyce-nie/j405fp8?_x_tr_sl=pl&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp](https://www-komputerswiat-pl.translate.goog/artykuly/redakcyjne/polska-odcieta-od-kluczowych-technologii-usa-w-teorii-tak-w-praktyce-nie/j405fp8?_x_tr_sl=pl&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp)
The US is scared of what us Romanians could do if we had access to AI chips confirmed!
Can someone please invade Nicaragua and Venezuela already? Only dictatorships left in America
I’d like to see a similar map showing the sources of each individual component that goes into the chip making process.
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