https://politpro.eu/en/switzerland/polls/61676/sotomo/2024-11-11
If one looks at the latest opinion poll results, they paint a very grim picture. Despite the cost of living rising, SVP(slowly morphing from a right wing party to a far right one) is going to increase their share of votes and is on their way to their best ever showing in the elections(Even better than the 2015 elections). Center-left SP and Greens will lose 0.5% and 0.3% of the vote share respectively. Centrist GLP will lose 0.3% share too and Die Mitte is supposed to have a similar performance as 2023. Centre Right FDP will maintain their vote share.
I don't understand how this is possible. Every year people will complain about price gouging by companies, lack of funding for two of the jewels in the Swiss crown SBB and ETH/EPF, rising healthcare costs and price gouging by real estate companies(worst kind of rent seekers as they do not give anything back to the society) but people have voted for the same option consistently since 1999. The composition of the Federal council hasn't changed much and both the federal council and parliament has been moving further right. If people do not vote for change but more of the same, how is something positive going to happen? Perhaps one day we will have more Röstis to mess up this country further. Especially when this country needs a Röstigraben to keep these kind of politicians trapped and not one to divide the country.
by Sufficient-History71
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> SVP(slowly morphing from a right wing party to a far right one)
?? They’ve been a far right populist party for decades. And they’ve never proposed any solution.
And how exactly are the SP or the Greens going to solve the issues of rising costs/underfunding of the SBB and ETH, or the rising costs of healthcare or the rising rents? Money doesn’t grow on trees, so somebody will have to pay for it…
I think migration concerns topple the other issues you list. The average Swiss couldn’t care less about ETH as it is full with foreign students.
SP’s and the Greens’ recipees are most definitely not going to resolve any of these problems. Quite to the contrary – Socialist ideas put into action are a tried and tested concept for disastrous economic outcomes. Disastrous outcomes that affect the poorer strata of society the most.
The electorate knows this and votes accordingly.
>Perhaps one day we will have more Röstis to mess up this country further. Especially when this country needs a Röstigraben to keep these kind of politicians trapped and not one to divide the country.
We should vote to make switzerland a big Geneve
Old people are selfish and racist but actually vote.
Young people don’t vote but complain about everything 🤷♂️
Young people are most to blame. I was so happy when i got my voting rights, only to realize that other students mostly did not vote!
People complain every year about funding of SBB & ETH? You might live in a bubble… I literally never heard anybody say that.
Anyway, doesn’t mean I don’t agree with your points, but that the SVP is winning (while right wing is winning literally everywhere in the west) isn’t that much of a surprise, right?
Edit: also people are simple. They take the train home after a long day at work. In the train: drunk asylum seekers. It’s just 3 out of thousands, but that doesn’t matter. He thinks: what the fuck man? Best case they listen to loud music or are loud/obnoxious.
and now the most interesting part: I don’t vote SVP. The opposite. But just for stating a fact like that above makes people call me a Nazi (even though it’s just an observation and a real reason why people vote SVP. You would know this if you actually TALKED to people outside of your bubble). Now calling me a Nazi or them a Nazi just makes them vote SVP “even harder” or even blinder.
They do simply not care what affects them and how if they vote SVP. They care only about one thing: those 3 drunk guys must be gone. At all cost. Even if I pay 14081380018 for Insurance (also: of course they will also say Insurance rises because of immigrants).
How does it matter? Due to our political system, such tendencies are smoothed out in the long run. See the last and actual legislation: The right tried to powerplay things, and they got crushed on the polls. So it doesn’t really matter if SVP gains another percent or so in vote share, because that doesn’t translate to wins in the polls. The referendum is a powerful tool, and you still got the cantons as a corrective body: In the small chamber (Ständerat), SVP doesn’t really have a strong foundation.
Swiss are conservatists, and I also know some Swiss in their 20s (educated) and are far right wing, Trump supporters. So it are not only the old folks.
This is a phenomenon all over the west so it’s moot to look for explanations exlusively inside of Switzerland. In general, everyone likes to pretend these days like the evil Usländers are to blame for all our problems and we need a strong fascist leader to get rid of them and lead us back into our glorious past.
If you worry so much about the cost of living, maybe you shouldn’t vote for the Left, who in the end are trying to increase the price of everything to “save the planet”. More tax on meat, bio products only, more and more green regulations that just make everything more expensive. In Zurich city they doubled the blue parking zone prices used by the poor that dont have a garage for fucks sake. It really is as simple as that
Both radical right and left shape each other like mirrors. None offers real solutions. And while these two thrive in all their craziness… we are leaving the center out to die.
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