National Guard confusion as troops fear turning into Trump’s deportation ‘Gestapo’

https://www.rawstory.com/confusion-in-the-national-guard-as-troops-are-afraid-of-being-seen-as-a-gestapo/

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  3. Next year, when you pull your car into line at the military checkpoint/roadblock that has been set up to screen for illegals, and the 18 year old kid hanging on the .50 that you can see peeking out from behind the chicken plate on top of the Hummer has a red MAGA cap on….you’ll know what kind of country you live in now.

    Remember, the first country that the Nazis invaded was their own.

  5. There is a simple solution for that. If you are given an illegal or immoral order, don’t follow it.

    There will be consequences, of course, but those consequences are a hell of a lot easier to live with than the consequences of becoming a Nazi foot soldier.

  6. This may run contrary to a lot of eighth grade Redditors’ beliefs but securing your border and removing people from your country that came in illegally is not the same as going door to door in Europe to enslave and eradicate Jews in concentration camps. That may be a tad hyperbolic.

  7. Plenty of US troops don’t want to be told to turn arms against potential is citizens and innocent civilians. Unfortunately they are in a bind as they have to, within certain limitations, follow orders.

  8. But they would be in such great company with the Nazi Waffen SS…🧐

  9. Here’s two words to think about, conscious objection.

  10. Will it take executing our own servicemen for “disobeying” to get people to realize?

  11. If you don’t want to be Nazis, then don’t vote for them.

  12. Don’t. If ever there was a time for a military coup…

  13. The problem with this country isn’t the underprivileged. The problem is the overprivilaged.

  14. Remember what the National Guard did at Kent State. They are not trained for crowd control, that is a job for the police.

  15. Just don’t. You swore an oath to the constitution. Following unlawful orders will not exonerate you from responsibility.

  16. Strikes me that now, or maybe several months ago, would be a great time for senior officers to start giving the troops some mandatory training on what is and is not a legal order, a bit of a refresher course on the subject. Maybe couple that with a refresher on the war crimes trials that came about after WWII, for officers and enlisted who had “just been following orders.”

  19. He needs to start with his own companies? I have first hand witnessed on a lot of his properties that he employs many immigrants. And I’ll bet you the majority of them don’t have visas. Oh wait a minute whatever he says doesn’t apply to himself but everybody else. Carry on!

  20. And let them all be fired and replaced by little ignorant trumpies.

  22. “Sometimes, mutiny is justified.”

    “Don’t be Nazis”.

  23. The military is only sworn to serve the constitution, not blindly follow orders- they could technically refuse.

  25. The bright side of this: after it’s all through, we will have a robust passenger rail connected to hubs with robust….hotels?

  27. The second tRump administration will end in the second American Revolution. Mark my words.

  28. History is only repeating itself. The question isn’t will he push them that far. It’s a remember your history issue.

    We are indoctrinated to believe that we didn’t invade, kill, torture, or do our best to exterminate the Indigenous peoples. We are indoctrinated in so many ways to believe that our history is amazing. No. It wasn’t amazing- it was slaughter. America #1… #1 in b.s. and flat out lies is more appropriate imo.

    Our insanity didn’t start with slavery, it started with the attempted extermination of the Indigenous people. Tbh, that’s still going on. We just don’t see it happening because it’s happening on the reservations. For example:

    [48% of households on Native American reservations still lack access to clean water and adequate sanitation, meaning a significant portion of Native Americans do not have access to reliable water sources or proper sewer systems](https://www.google.com/search?q=how+many+native+ameeicans+have+no+access+to+water%2C+or+sewer&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en-us&client=safari)

    We are (apparently) not capable of facing facts and realizing that this is how how we started. I literally can’t understand how so many people don’t understand American history. We colonized the United States (and other places such as Hawaii) with extreme violence. Did you sleep through your history classes? Did you learn about The Trail of Tears?Doesn’t the present seem familiar? Don’t you remember what we did? To clarify- Welcome to Colonial America.

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