With the current inflation rate, almost everyone is getting a real terms pay cut.
Strike! A strike consisting of a large proportion of practicing doctors and nurses (not just juniors) could bring the government to its knees within hours. Look at what the RMT achieved in London last week.
Please stop the ‘heroes’ nonsense. They aren’t heroes. They’re paid workers doing their job like everyone else.
How can MPs seriously give themselves a payrise due to the tough time they had during the pandemic and let this happen to NHS workers?
Bastards will crow on about how nurses deserve more more money, and then those same cunts will go and vote tory.
With nurses increasingly going abroad after qualifying, the government needs to do something to stop the brain drain and a pay increase will go a long way to helping that. It’s a kick in the teeth to train for years in a vital career and to see how much you are supposedly worth to the government, which then crows about how they value you so much. Nurses are not stupid and know how the government really feel about them, which is why they are so happy to move abroad to get away from them.
Anyone and everyone who would campaign or even have an opinion against a significant pay rise for nursing and care staff are honestly garbage no-hope human beings.
Has anyone calculated how much this would cost? It would be interesting to hear.
It wasn’t so long ago people were clapping on their front step.
Funny thing about people’s memories
Is anyone more intelligent (and with more time on their hands) able to tell me if separating clinical and non-clinical staff that are both on agenda for change would allow a bigger pay rise for clinical workers than non-clinical?
I say this as a non-clinical worker on agenda for change. I still want a pay rise as we all work hard and the cost of living increases demand it, but our clinical colleagues have REALLY worked hard and put up with a lot more on the front line. If this allowed clinical staff to get a higher pay rise I’d be supportive of it.
Although we do have the staff that fall between those lines. Ward clerks for example are front line but non-clinical so it’s difficult to see where to draw the line
Nurses, HCAs, Nurse Practitioners etc definitely need a higher pay rise.
Meanwhile MP’s pay will rise by £2212 per year from April 1st.
The enitre thing is a joke that no one but the rich finds funny.
Considering politicians gave themselves a 2200 pay raise…. this is fucking required!
GIVE THEM THE MONEY THEY DESERVE!. No good Boris clapping his hands, that ain’t going to help pay there mortgage an bills.
I work in domiciliary care and we’ve been asking for a pay rise but they say “you’ve had a pay rise already!”
Yeah.. a measly 40p back in November. Which only just covers the new minimum wage increase in April
They deserve it and then some…As do most workers.
But we have to stop talking about pay rises, because when you were better off in the late 90’s on a significantly lower salary we know ever increasing wages are not the solution, it’s just numbers. It’s what’s being taken off you, not what you are getting that’s the problem. The first thing we must do is recognize that homes now being an average of 250K is beyond absurd and absolutely is arbitrary – It was way beyond the joke when they hit 150K – The system that allowed this to happen must be smashed to pieces. At this rate the whole economy is suffering to feed an ever more greedy housing market. We must shift completely from our obsession with money in property…Well on low end housing at the very least. We screwing everyone over more and more each year and what do you get for it? It taken off you for old age care – Poetic justice really for screwing over your kids, but it’s not right. It just has to end…NOW.
I don’t dispute they deserve it but it would be nice if they remembered the rest of the Civil Service too; especially those of us who have had effective pay cuts year on year with the rate that inflation has grown since 2010.
There’s a reason I don’t and won’t work in the NHS any more.
Well, tbh, there’s several. But the pay and conditions are pretty high on the list. In fact, almost everything that isn’t ‘pay’ comes under ‘conditions’. It’d take root and branch reform to make me go back into the NHS – like many equally skilled and experienced colleagues I’ve walked away for good because I’m sick of being undervalued and patronised by politicians and micromanaged by bean-counters who’ve rarely if ever set foot in an actual ward but presume to tell me how to do my job. I’ll tell you how to solve the NHS nurse recruitment and retention crisis:
**Pay us what we’re worth you mealy-mouthed, miserly, utterly corrupt sociopaths.**
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It’s not just nurses either, I work for a local authority and workload is incredibly high. Over the last 3 years my salary has increased by only £500, despite huge increases in responsibility etc. My salary should be about £2000 higher than it was 3 years ago, just to have stayed in line with inflation…
Save the country from Covid. But your reward is dying from the cold at home because you can’t afford heating. It’s Tory Britain.
The NHS has been chronically underfunded for years , this is just another thing in a long line of crap for nurses and doctors – I’d give them whatever they want after the last 2 years.
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Let’s also not forget that even if they got this >10% pay rise their income would *still* be a lot less in real terms than the equivalent bank in 2010. This issue has been stewing for a long time now and the pandemic has made all too clear how unjustifiable it is.
But nurses on agency can get paid a massive amount. How does that work
My neice is a newly qualified Royal Navy nurse, currently working alongside NHS staff in Selly Oak. She’s on £34K while her NHS peers are on £24K.
If you want to be a nurse, do it in the Royal Navy. 😁
Sorry nurses, Tories polling back at 40% and COVID has been pretended away while Labour consider it best to support the Russian backed, COVID denying brexiteer PM.
I cannot think of any other profession that get it so rough.
Nurses pay has lapsed so far behind inflation and AVG wage growth.
They are constantly asked to do more within their role that used to be a doctor’s responsibility.
They work many extra unpaid hours (my partner is die to finish at 730pm on a shift, and rarely gets out until gone 8pm)
They are required to have a degree, and also pay a HUGE sum in Union and professional membership fees.
They have a starting salary of 25k PA still. It’s a joke.
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With the current inflation rate, almost everyone is getting a real terms pay cut.
Strike! A strike consisting of a large proportion of practicing doctors and nurses (not just juniors) could bring the government to its knees within hours. Look at what the RMT achieved in London last week.
Please stop the ‘heroes’ nonsense. They aren’t heroes. They’re paid workers doing their job like everyone else.
How can MPs seriously give themselves a payrise due to the tough time they had during the pandemic and let this happen to NHS workers?
Bastards will crow on about how nurses deserve more more money, and then those same cunts will go and vote tory.
With nurses increasingly going abroad after qualifying, the government needs to do something to stop the brain drain and a pay increase will go a long way to helping that. It’s a kick in the teeth to train for years in a vital career and to see how much you are supposedly worth to the government, which then crows about how they value you so much. Nurses are not stupid and know how the government really feel about them, which is why they are so happy to move abroad to get away from them.
Anyone and everyone who would campaign or even have an opinion against a significant pay rise for nursing and care staff are honestly garbage no-hope human beings.
Has anyone calculated how much this would cost? It would be interesting to hear.
It wasn’t so long ago people were clapping on their front step.
Funny thing about people’s memories
Is anyone more intelligent (and with more time on their hands) able to tell me if separating clinical and non-clinical staff that are both on agenda for change would allow a bigger pay rise for clinical workers than non-clinical?
I say this as a non-clinical worker on agenda for change. I still want a pay rise as we all work hard and the cost of living increases demand it, but our clinical colleagues have REALLY worked hard and put up with a lot more on the front line. If this allowed clinical staff to get a higher pay rise I’d be supportive of it.
Although we do have the staff that fall between those lines. Ward clerks for example are front line but non-clinical so it’s difficult to see where to draw the line
Nurses, HCAs, Nurse Practitioners etc definitely need a higher pay rise.
Meanwhile MP’s pay will rise by £2212 per year from April 1st.
The enitre thing is a joke that no one but the rich finds funny.
Considering politicians gave themselves a 2200 pay raise…. this is fucking required!
GIVE THEM THE MONEY THEY DESERVE!. No good Boris clapping his hands, that ain’t going to help pay there mortgage an bills.
I work in domiciliary care and we’ve been asking for a pay rise but they say “you’ve had a pay rise already!”
Yeah.. a measly 40p back in November. Which only just covers the new minimum wage increase in April
They deserve it and then some…As do most workers.
But we have to stop talking about pay rises, because when you were better off in the late 90’s on a significantly lower salary we know ever increasing wages are not the solution, it’s just numbers. It’s what’s being taken off you, not what you are getting that’s the problem. The first thing we must do is recognize that homes now being an average of 250K is beyond absurd and absolutely is arbitrary – It was way beyond the joke when they hit 150K – The system that allowed this to happen must be smashed to pieces. At this rate the whole economy is suffering to feed an ever more greedy housing market. We must shift completely from our obsession with money in property…Well on low end housing at the very least. We screwing everyone over more and more each year and what do you get for it? It taken off you for old age care – Poetic justice really for screwing over your kids, but it’s not right. It just has to end…NOW.
I don’t dispute they deserve it but it would be nice if they remembered the rest of the Civil Service too; especially those of us who have had effective pay cuts year on year with the rate that inflation has grown since 2010.
There’s a reason I don’t and won’t work in the NHS any more.
Well, tbh, there’s several. But the pay and conditions are pretty high on the list. In fact, almost everything that isn’t ‘pay’ comes under ‘conditions’. It’d take root and branch reform to make me go back into the NHS – like many equally skilled and experienced colleagues I’ve walked away for good because I’m sick of being undervalued and patronised by politicians and micromanaged by bean-counters who’ve rarely if ever set foot in an actual ward but presume to tell me how to do my job. I’ll tell you how to solve the NHS nurse recruitment and retention crisis:
**Pay us what we’re worth you mealy-mouthed, miserly, utterly corrupt sociopaths.**
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It’s not just nurses either, I work for a local authority and workload is incredibly high. Over the last 3 years my salary has increased by only £500, despite huge increases in responsibility etc. My salary should be about £2000 higher than it was 3 years ago, just to have stayed in line with inflation…
Save the country from Covid. But your reward is dying from the cold at home because you can’t afford heating. It’s Tory Britain.
The NHS has been chronically underfunded for years , this is just another thing in a long line of crap for nurses and doctors – I’d give them whatever they want after the last 2 years.
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Let’s also not forget that even if they got this >10% pay rise their income would *still* be a lot less in real terms than the equivalent bank in 2010. This issue has been stewing for a long time now and the pandemic has made all too clear how unjustifiable it is.
But nurses on agency can get paid a massive amount. How does that work
My neice is a newly qualified Royal Navy nurse, currently working alongside NHS staff in Selly Oak. She’s on £34K while her NHS peers are on £24K.
If you want to be a nurse, do it in the Royal Navy. 😁
Sorry nurses, Tories polling back at 40% and COVID has been pretended away while Labour consider it best to support the Russian backed, COVID denying brexiteer PM.
I cannot think of any other profession that get it so rough.
Nurses pay has lapsed so far behind inflation and AVG wage growth.
They are constantly asked to do more within their role that used to be a doctor’s responsibility.
They work many extra unpaid hours (my partner is die to finish at 730pm on a shift, and rarely gets out until gone 8pm)
They are required to have a degree, and also pay a HUGE sum in Union and professional membership fees.
They have a starting salary of 25k PA still. It’s a joke.