Nimbys doing nimby things, bet its led by a Reform voting boomer called Dave.
There’s a lot of blade runner idiots on that road to Lewisham
This is insane, the Bakerloo Line must be extended to Lewisham, at the very least!
Given its OKR it is either:
Countrysider LARPing as an edgy slum dweller
or
Anti Kahn Anti Transport Anti Clean Air loon
Probably Susan Hall
Strangely this was deleted by mods earlier this afternoon. Then allowed up the second time.
So a bunch of idiots who want the area to be deprived with weak transport links are trying to create a narrative? Not gonna happen, the locals want this extension and the area desperately needs it,
BTW any updates about when this is going to get the green light?
NIMBYS need to be sentenced to developer hell. We can’t let them do what they did to HS2 and stall it so much that it blew over the budget 3 times over to pander to them.
Old Kent Road people still not got over the whole Monopoly thing.
All this talk of NIMBYism… have you not thought that these people have legitimate grievances and extending the Bakerloo Line has the very real possibility of allowing the poor people on!?
“The counsellors who proposed this must be getting brown envelopes!” /s – every Facebook local group in existence
Ok so, if you own a home in south London that is not near a tube or train station and would therefore not benefit much (if at all) from the Bakerloo line and you know they’ll push through a bunch of planning around each station (as they should), then your property price might go down a little bit, and of course it’s paid for in part by your council tax.
It’s a crazily stupid mentality.
People in in Chelsea appose crossrail 2. People are idiots
There’s no project safe from NIMBYs
Almost everything is bad for someone.
In this case, the main category who lose out are probably private renters who work locally/from home/not at all, and rarely go into town. Their rents will go up, shops etc. will cater a bit less to them and a bit more to people with more money, and they won’t benefit much from any of it.
To be clear, this is not me. I’m team YIMBY, team gentrification, I think this will be good for the vast majority of residents and mildly good for me (I’m out in Zone 4 – this is only a marginal improvement to my transport options).
But the number of genuine losers is not 0, and it’s not surprising some of them are pissed off. Alternatively, I guess it could be anti-gentrification Goldsmiths crusties.
I thought the main objection was that the tesco on OKR and the sainsbury’s in New Cross would have to shut.
It’s because it’s brown isn’t it. Smh I thought we’d moved past this.
People listen to Coldplay voted for the Nazis, you can’t trust people…
Yes, it will put rents up
Absolute NIMBY bollocks.
I do get some people’s concerns… Look up the road to elephant and castle and how people got turfed out of their houses.
The area could do with some redevelopment but it has to be done equitablly and not just giving big developers carte blanche to do whatever.
This shouldn’t be surprising. There are always people who benefit from the status quo. It’s only a problem when you have a system that prioritises them.
My friend opposes it. It will replace the existing mainline and so her transport costs will go up significantly. She has a season ticket from her station to London stations and her office is next to one of the mainline stations. From memory, she said her costs will go up £600-£800 a year and her commute will be worse – she’ll have to change. People on here seem to think that people objecting are all idiots, but people who live there do so based on the transport links and the changes aren’t beneficial in all circumstances.
And with good reason, who wants to have better access to Harlesden and Willesden Junction 😂
Bakerloo line extension is absolutely unnecessary
NIMBYism is a scourge on this country – people need to stop being selfish
BakerLOONIES
it’s because the extension will increase rents and encourage more gentrification (which let’s not lie, is a polite name for social cleansing)
in theory any extension of public transport is amazing news, but the reality in a city like london is that property developers will rush in and build the nasty identikit flats only home counties yuppies can afford
you lot are so detached from regular working class londoners it’s mad
I mean to be fair they’re not wrong. It’s a difficult balance between doing improvements and giving the benefit of those improvements to existing communities rather than slowly driving those who don’t own away.
Obviously not to say don’t do the extension, but just dismissing the concern as Nimbyism doesn’t do any good, how to get the balance better should be the focus.
(I say this as someone who rode in on one of the early waves of gentrification around Crossrail).
I wonder what age demographic most of the opposition is coming from
The only reason to be against it is if it prevents crossrail 2 which is a much more important project…
But both is obviously better.
P.s. it probably won’t happen.
I wonder if this is a ploy to get more people talking about it
The only thing I oppose about it, is I think it needs to go further than just Lewisham. SE London is literally the single worst connected part of Greater London, which means residence just have to rely on trains, which take so much longer than tubes.
Having commuted via bus yo OKR for a couple of years…. Christ it needs a tube line
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Send them to prison
Nimbys doing nimby things, bet its led by a Reform voting boomer called Dave.
There’s a lot of blade runner idiots on that road to Lewisham
This is insane, the Bakerloo Line must be extended to Lewisham, at the very least!
Given its OKR it is either:
Countrysider LARPing as an edgy slum dweller
or
Anti Kahn Anti Transport Anti Clean Air loon
Probably Susan Hall
Strangely this was deleted by mods earlier this afternoon. Then allowed up the second time.
So a bunch of idiots who want the area to be deprived with weak transport links are trying to create a narrative? Not gonna happen, the locals want this extension and the area desperately needs it,
BTW any updates about when this is going to get the green light?
NIMBYS need to be sentenced to developer hell. We can’t let them do what they did to HS2 and stall it so much that it blew over the budget 3 times over to pander to them.
Old Kent Road people still not got over the whole Monopoly thing.
All this talk of NIMBYism… have you not thought that these people have legitimate grievances and extending the Bakerloo Line has the very real possibility of allowing the poor people on!?
“The counsellors who proposed this must be getting brown envelopes!” /s – every Facebook local group in existence
Ok so, if you own a home in south London that is not near a tube or train station and would therefore not benefit much (if at all) from the Bakerloo line and you know they’ll push through a bunch of planning around each station (as they should), then your property price might go down a little bit, and of course it’s paid for in part by your council tax.
It’s a crazily stupid mentality.
People in in Chelsea appose crossrail 2. People are idiots
There’s no project safe from NIMBYs
Almost everything is bad for someone.
In this case, the main category who lose out are probably private renters who work locally/from home/not at all, and rarely go into town. Their rents will go up, shops etc. will cater a bit less to them and a bit more to people with more money, and they won’t benefit much from any of it.
To be clear, this is not me. I’m team YIMBY, team gentrification, I think this will be good for the vast majority of residents and mildly good for me (I’m out in Zone 4 – this is only a marginal improvement to my transport options).
But the number of genuine losers is not 0, and it’s not surprising some of them are pissed off. Alternatively, I guess it could be anti-gentrification Goldsmiths crusties.
I thought the main objection was that the tesco on OKR and the sainsbury’s in New Cross would have to shut.
It’s because it’s brown isn’t it. Smh I thought we’d moved past this.
People listen to Coldplay voted for the Nazis, you can’t trust people…
Yes, it will put rents up
Absolute NIMBY bollocks.
I do get some people’s concerns… Look up the road to elephant and castle and how people got turfed out of their houses.
The area could do with some redevelopment but it has to be done equitablly and not just giving big developers carte blanche to do whatever.
This shouldn’t be surprising. There are always people who benefit from the status quo. It’s only a problem when you have a system that prioritises them.
My friend opposes it. It will replace the existing mainline and so her transport costs will go up significantly. She has a season ticket from her station to London stations and her office is next to one of the mainline stations. From memory, she said her costs will go up £600-£800 a year and her commute will be worse – she’ll have to change. People on here seem to think that people objecting are all idiots, but people who live there do so based on the transport links and the changes aren’t beneficial in all circumstances.
And with good reason, who wants to have better access to Harlesden and Willesden Junction 😂
Bakerloo line extension is absolutely unnecessary
NIMBYism is a scourge on this country – people need to stop being selfish
BakerLOONIES
it’s because the extension will increase rents and encourage more gentrification (which let’s not lie, is a polite name for social cleansing)
in theory any extension of public transport is amazing news, but the reality in a city like london is that property developers will rush in and build the nasty identikit flats only home counties yuppies can afford
you lot are so detached from regular working class londoners it’s mad
I mean to be fair they’re not wrong. It’s a difficult balance between doing improvements and giving the benefit of those improvements to existing communities rather than slowly driving those who don’t own away.
Obviously not to say don’t do the extension, but just dismissing the concern as Nimbyism doesn’t do any good, how to get the balance better should be the focus.
(I say this as someone who rode in on one of the early waves of gentrification around Crossrail).
I wonder what age demographic most of the opposition is coming from
The only reason to be against it is if it prevents crossrail 2 which is a much more important project…
But both is obviously better.
P.s. it probably won’t happen.
I wonder if this is a ploy to get more people talking about it
The only thing I oppose about it, is I think it needs to go further than just Lewisham. SE London is literally the single worst connected part of Greater London, which means residence just have to rely on trains, which take so much longer than tubes.
Having commuted via bus yo OKR for a couple of years…. Christ it needs a tube line
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