We Can Stop Pretending Like Donald Trump Had Never Heard of Project 2025 Now, Right?

https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/a63530845/congress-confirmation-hearing-russell-vought-project-2025/

30 comments
  1. He was open about his involvement with the project until the project started getting negative press. Only morons believed his denial

  2. The Heritage Foundation/Architects of P2025 don’t give a crap about Trump. They just needed someone to get into the presidency who would rubberstamp all of the changes they needed to implement to purge the government of anybody who would cause them trouble. Trump’s not going to jail, so he’ll sign anything they put in front of him. That might have been part of the deal.

    But if the economy goes bad and common people start rioting in the streets, the Techbros will have their boy Vance and the cabinet 25th Amendment Trump in a heartbeat and put all the blame on Trump…then quietly continue to hollow out what’s left of our federal government. Win-win for them.

  3. Doesn’t matter. He could come out right now and say that he lied about having never heard of it.

    That certain group of people – who defended his lie during the election – would come up with *something* to defend him. 

    They never admit wrongdoing. All they do is claim that they’re always right and everyone who doesn’t side with them is always wrong.

  4. He may have heard of it, but I’d bet any money he has not read a single word. In fact, I’d bet he has about a 4th grade reading comprehension level.

    He does what his handlers (money) tell him to do.

  5. Anyone that believed this was an idiot. It was obvious. The media are complicit in burying it. The Democrats didn’t talk about it enough. Now it’s too late.

  6. He could literally sign the entirety of Project 2025, all 900+ pages, as an Executive Order and the sheep would still deny that he has anything to do with it. This election was a reminder of how many people will still, somehow, take his word at face value and/or twist themselves into knots justifying their support for him. 

  7. I don’t know, media.

    CAN WE?

    Because *I* never fucking pretended to begin with.

  8. He tore all of the example executive orders out of the back of the binder, and signed them on the first day

  9. He doesn’t have the nutsack to say this was his agenda all along. He’s a world class coward.

  10. For the idiots who believed him….how come all the people who wrote it were working on his campaign?

  11. Who was pretending? 

    A general good rule of thumb when dealing with him is to assume everything is a lie. 

  12. Can we stop calling it project 2025, and instead call it what it is, the NINTH leadership mandate from the Federalist society. Allowing them to rebrand it muddied the waters, it was a lot easier to deny knowledge of something that sounded as a one off manifesto, and much harder when you realize the FS has done this for EVERY election since Reagan, and their are published records that compare Presidential policy to what was directed in the leadership mandates.

  13. Who are articles like this for?

    People that care/read/educated already know.

    People that don’t… never will and never care.

  14. I feel like I’m crazy pills. Of course, the lifelong grifter, liar, and cheater knew about p2025. We’ve been screaming this from the mountaintops since it came to light. But like orange Hitler said, “we love the uneducated.”

  15. Maga stopped pretending they weren’t fully on board with project 2025 right after the election.

  16. The switch has been flipped to “well actually he won so that means voters totally approve of this very hated thing they all didn’t like when told about it”

  17. It doesn’t even matter if he heard about it or not. He was always surrounding himself with the people involved who are yes men that know how to manipulate him into doing what they want. He will sign whatever they put in front of him regardless of if he cares about it or not

  18. They stopped that right after the election. Several of his close contacts made posts the day after the election saying things like “Now we can say that Project 2025 was the plan all along.”

  19. Just a reminder that 3 months of the 24 month election cycle have now been wasted.

    Democrats do not have any coherent message or compelling speaker, at least in terms of someone who the voters will listen to every day. And no, Jeffries is not and will never be that.

    By this point in 2021, GOP had finished 3 very accomplished months of 24×7 (disinformation) messaging. They were already stacking the hell out of election boards, school boards, city halls, town councils, state boards, etc. They were well on the way to building the hate and hype that has allowed the asphyxiation of government and democracy.

    Dems are currently talking about “unplugging from politics”. The rest of the time they’re keeping GOP talking points about Pelosi and Schumer and Biden alive.

    How about acting like we want to actually win an election?

    Why aren’t Dems finding someone with guts and a voice to lead?

    Why aren’t Dems actively recruiting Fetterman’s replacement? At the very least, some pressure will slow his descent into full Manchin mode.

    Why are Dems calling J6 terrorists “defendants” and diluting criticism by first talking about how lawful the pardon power is and how some of them served their time and how one of them is remorseful and how there’s a slippery slope and blah blah blah blah blah. GOP never dilutes their call to action with such nuance or even truth. Every minute of every day and every message is spent on: how will this give us power.

    And sorry Dems, but you first need to win in order to govern.

  20. I don’t know why anyone pretends it begin with, he was fucking lying

  21. The left knew he was lying about this and the right never cared if he was or not.

  22. Have you seen him signing these EO’s? He doesn’t even know what they’re having them sign at this point. It’s turning into weekend at Bernie’s shit already. All he wants to do is say outrageous shit with a mic in front of his face and post nasty stuff online.

  23. Only fools and the chronically uninformed (Trump’s base) ever believed that in the first place.

    Almost as soon as Trump denied knowledge, the picture came out of him & Heritage Foundation President Kevin Roberts on a private flight back. Reported August 2024

    [Story](https://substack.com/home/post/p-151721941/)

  24. He still might not have heard of it. They’ve likely printed his own copy with the title of “Trump’s big book of great ideas!”

  25. You dumb bitches should have known ahead of time and not voted for the downfall of society. U knew. Watch the egg price go up as your family dies of bird flu while health agencies are unable to communicate with the public.

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