Joke of a country. Lowest deaths ever happened to correlate with covid and lockdown. Deaths last year decreased on the previous. We’re one of the safest in the world. Zero evidence presented on the rationale, just pulled out the ass of some idiots who’ll never be affected and whom I’d suspect live in the Dublin urban area. I pity the couriers ,truckers or anyone else who’s livelihood depends on driving. Not to mention everyone else who drives safely at current limits. This will have zero effect on the drunk/drugged/wreckless/criminals/suicidal drivers out there, but everyone else will have to pay.
>The speed limit on national secondary roads will also reduce from 100km/h to 80km/h [at an unspecified date in 2025].
Time to invest in speed vans.
About time, hopefully this begins to sound the death knell of the motor car.
Delighted to hear. Im living on an 80km road and the speed is gone crazy. Most people are doing well above 80km/hr and driving carelessly. There is loads of junctions and house entrances with kids playing and cyclists using the road.
So, am I right in thinking that the old N11, which was 100 kph not so long ago, will end up being a 60kph road? Even at the current 80 it’s too low a limit on an awful lot of it. And anyone travelling from tramore to Waterford will be driving 60 kph the whole way in. And the Waterford ring road will go back to 60kph after being raised to 80kph years and years ago because 60 was deemed too low. Crazy stuff. Bikes will be undertaking cars by the new time in those 30kph zones.
Great. So I guess the *iT’s A LiMiT nOT a tArGeT* crowd will start driving at 60kph now. Talking about the crowd always driving 20kph below the speed limit like they don’t have jobs to go to.
It would be great if you could walk or cycle rural Ireland safely, but some cunt in a Fiesta needs to be somewhere.
Ridiculous, this is not a solution at all.
Ah here next they’ll be telling us we can’t drink on them roads
The councils have always had the power to set the speed limits on R roads and mostly chose no to. So we all know they won’t review them now.
Lowering the limit to 60 on a road where 80 is safe is going to get people killed we have no enforcement of speeding. Other than a few speed vans. A lot of people will ignore this charge. But some will follow it. This will lead to traffic buildup and fustrated impatient drivers who will try to over take more than one car at a time. Its going to cause deaths.
I’m wondering what difference it will make to “established” users of the roads. Living in Donegal there’s fuck all garda presence on the roads. Regional roads have been 80km for my entire driving experience.
Why don’t they just ban driving between 23.00 and 07.00 unless you’re a lorry/taxi driver, or have a special permit for that special event? Or ban pedestrians.
It’s all just nonsense.
Okay, can we get a high speed train to commute to work then?
I know a lot seem annoyed at this, but I’ve got some shocking roads near me that will be a lot better at 60.
I think they now run the risk of losing all credibility with speed limits. Even very safety conscious drivers will feel that the limit is too slow for the road. The standard of roads, tires, cars etc have the benefit of decades of incremental improvements, yet they are lowering the speed limits. Imagine investing 100s of millions in a road infrastructure only to slow the entire thing down.
Fall in line
Hey guys, it’s certainly the wrong topic but I’m from Germany and my mum lives in Killawalla, Mayo. I can’t reach her, can someone tell me what the situation is there?
There’s a road near me that’s currently 60km/hr but if you go under 80km/hr on it you get beeped with a line of cars behind you because the road is so wide
Then there’s another road near me that’s essentially a “back road” but it’s good enough that it’s 2 way without a grass verge in the middle. It’s 80km/hr but should be 60km/hr
Roads classification needs to be looked at
With zero enforcement this is going to be a shit show.
Ah, a one size fits all response to a much more nuanced issue. Classic
Government going for the low hanging fruit as always.
Issue here is enforcement and lack of Garda on the roads.
Looks like there will be a lot more overtaking and dangerous overtaking by some drivers.
I live near the old N8 (now R639) and there is a stretch that was 100kph and recently was changed to 80kph. It’s one of the widest, straightest sections of road that’s not Motorway in the country, so It’s totally insane to limit it to 80kph… But here we are.
And what’s that going to do? If they weren’t adhering to the current speed limit, they are definitely not going to adhere to the new one.
Ah great.
Speeders that did 110 on a 100 will keep doing 110 on 80 anyway.
Decent drivers doing 90 – 100 now will be doing 70 – 80, with absolutely pointless journey time increase (dead time).
Turtles that did <80, now I’ll be doing <60. Causing even more multi car overtakes…
For most rural roads, you’d have to be a bit thick to be going at 80 anyways.
Ah fantastic so now I get to add 20 mins to my commute in the morning. What a fucking ridiculous idea. The people who speed won’t pay any attention to this and just dangerously drive behind anyone actually tries follow the speed limits. Load of bollox that only serves to punish commuters by adding more time and bullshit to their commute.
My road is an 80km/h road, narrow, winding, with blind corners. It has been 80km/h since they switched from mph, before that there was no speed posted. My question is why it was ever 80km/h knowing it would always be reduced. Anyone doing 80 would be charged with dangerous driving on my road.
Can they not report it based on what roads specifically will be changed because there seems to be some confusion over the wording used. I’ve assumed by rural roads, they mean the L roads. While the secondary national roads are the R roads.
For the R roads it really should be a road by road basis. Some are crap, while some are very well built and maintained to allow higher speeds.
As for the L roads, how often they hold the 80 sign, a blanket speed limit for all of them, even though driving them will let you know many are nowhere near wide or maintained enough to go 80 (you can try, but it’s dangerousand inconsiderate of other drivers and locals living on those roads), yet a handful could easily retain the 80 limit.
Where’s the road by road basis we were told would happen?
Just fix the roads!
Dara o brien the supreme cunt takes on transform in Ireland
Nobody wants this
Fucking good
So many of these roads are 80 because ah sure yano the turns yourself.
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Restrict the cars no speeding then simples
Can everyone finally agree this shite is a money making scheme. Like many have pointed out we need enforcement not lower limits and speed cameras everywhere
Our new Junior ministers from Kerry won’t allow that ….
On some roads that’s desperately overdue.
On other roads it’ll be wildly inappropriate a lot of the time.
Ah now boss how na goin keep her lit and spin her off goin fuward.
Ah sure that’s grand if I’m stuck behind someone doing 60, I’ve a load of YouTubing and TikToking to catch up on.. /s
The problem here is every road is different, there are roads that are 60km limits that could be 100km, and ones that are 80 that should be 50km. They’re just slapping 60 on to ever road in a certain category now which is not going to make an ounce of difference.
As if there’s going to be a speed van on a rural country road, it’s just going to result in one person getting impatient, and passing out someone resulting in a crash
All this is going to do is encourage drivers who once followed the limit to break limits. If they are a 60 road, that was once 80, they will do 100. If they are going to be penalised they might as well make it worth it.
The speed limits aren’t the problem. A lower limit will not stop any accidents or deaths.
The problem in this country is the fact that 90% of Joe Public hasn’t a single iota of a clue how to drive. I come across ridiculous situations on a daily basis.
Speed is a scapegoat for making it look like the government is doing something.
What we need is mandatory retesting. Both every 5 years, and when you have an accident. This business of getting your driving licence at 17 and never seeing a tester again, or causing an accident that could have, or did kill somebody, and not being charged or punished simply because they weren’t speeding is ridiculous.
Apparently it’s A ok to knock me off my motorcycle provided they don’t break the speed limit. They won’t be forced to serve a disqualification or retested for almost killing me.
That’s the problem in this country, not speed.
This will knock on the cost of living. Delivery drivers will have to take longer, meaning less drops per day.
Variable limits on rural roads should be the common sense approach IMO – say 60km on narrower sections, reducing down to 50km on tight bends and whatnot but on the long straight sections, 80km seems appropriate. Some roads (for eg.R618 and R619 in Cork) do have wide sections with excellent visibility ahead, and 80km is perfectly fine.
That all said…I’d applaud anyone who could even reach 50km let alone the 80km limit on this road near my village 🤪
Every stretch of road should have its allocated speed limit like in Spain. If the road is a 90 it means you can go 90, if it’s 50 then it could be very windy and mountainy or have sharp bends.
Irish speed limits make no sense to me. Plenty of counties have blanket 80 speed limits when the roads could easily be 100 and other roads are 100 and maybe you can only do 50.
Can we just make it 50 and install cameras and ticket every car via camera. So much money to be made. Will pay for dail top up many times over.
This is a stupid idea for a lot of rural roads
This will only add to the cost of living.
All last mile transportation costs will increase by about 40%.
What data shows that making this reduction in limits will reduce road death effectively?
Can’t imagine the effect this will have on diesel vehicles.
I’m not sure what will work but I don’t think this is it unfortunately. At the same time I 100% agree that 80km on some of these backroads is outrageously fast. Far too difficult to react when something unexpected happens.
One stat I learned recently about road deaths which surprised me was the number of deaths which were male pedestrians who had been drinking…it averages around 10% of all road deaths. Far higher than I’d have expected.
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Joke of a country. Lowest deaths ever happened to correlate with covid and lockdown. Deaths last year decreased on the previous. We’re one of the safest in the world. Zero evidence presented on the rationale, just pulled out the ass of some idiots who’ll never be affected and whom I’d suspect live in the Dublin urban area. I pity the couriers ,truckers or anyone else who’s livelihood depends on driving. Not to mention everyone else who drives safely at current limits. This will have zero effect on the drunk/drugged/wreckless/criminals/suicidal drivers out there, but everyone else will have to pay.
>The speed limit on national secondary roads will also reduce from 100km/h to 80km/h [at an unspecified date in 2025].
Time to invest in speed vans.
About time, hopefully this begins to sound the death knell of the motor car.
Delighted to hear. Im living on an 80km road and the speed is gone crazy. Most people are doing well above 80km/hr and driving carelessly. There is loads of junctions and house entrances with kids playing and cyclists using the road.
So, am I right in thinking that the old N11, which was 100 kph not so long ago, will end up being a 60kph road? Even at the current 80 it’s too low a limit on an awful lot of it. And anyone travelling from tramore to Waterford will be driving 60 kph the whole way in. And the Waterford ring road will go back to 60kph after being raised to 80kph years and years ago because 60 was deemed too low. Crazy stuff. Bikes will be undertaking cars by the new time in those 30kph zones.
Great. So I guess the *iT’s A LiMiT nOT a tArGeT* crowd will start driving at 60kph now. Talking about the crowd always driving 20kph below the speed limit like they don’t have jobs to go to.
https://preview.redd.it/djf9xbvnh0fe1.png?width=232&format=png&auto=webp&s=248d0bff701799af9abecf0b84a79b875d247d55
It would be great if you could walk or cycle rural Ireland safely, but some cunt in a Fiesta needs to be somewhere.
Ridiculous, this is not a solution at all.
Ah here next they’ll be telling us we can’t drink on them roads
The councils have always had the power to set the speed limits on R roads and mostly chose no to. So we all know they won’t review them now.
Lowering the limit to 60 on a road where 80 is safe is going to get people killed we have no enforcement of speeding. Other than a few speed vans. A lot of people will ignore this charge. But some will follow it. This will lead to traffic buildup and fustrated impatient drivers who will try to over take more than one car at a time. Its going to cause deaths.
I’m wondering what difference it will make to “established” users of the roads. Living in Donegal there’s fuck all garda presence on the roads. Regional roads have been 80km for my entire driving experience.
Why don’t they just ban driving between 23.00 and 07.00 unless you’re a lorry/taxi driver, or have a special permit for that special event? Or ban pedestrians.
It’s all just nonsense.
Okay, can we get a high speed train to commute to work then?
I know a lot seem annoyed at this, but I’ve got some shocking roads near me that will be a lot better at 60.
I think they now run the risk of losing all credibility with speed limits. Even very safety conscious drivers will feel that the limit is too slow for the road. The standard of roads, tires, cars etc have the benefit of decades of incremental improvements, yet they are lowering the speed limits. Imagine investing 100s of millions in a road infrastructure only to slow the entire thing down.
Fall in line
Hey guys, it’s certainly the wrong topic but I’m from Germany and my mum lives in Killawalla, Mayo. I can’t reach her, can someone tell me what the situation is there?
There’s a road near me that’s currently 60km/hr but if you go under 80km/hr on it you get beeped with a line of cars behind you because the road is so wide
Then there’s another road near me that’s essentially a “back road” but it’s good enough that it’s 2 way without a grass verge in the middle. It’s 80km/hr but should be 60km/hr
Roads classification needs to be looked at
With zero enforcement this is going to be a shit show.
Ah, a one size fits all response to a much more nuanced issue. Classic
Government going for the low hanging fruit as always.
Issue here is enforcement and lack of Garda on the roads.
Looks like there will be a lot more overtaking and dangerous overtaking by some drivers.
I live near the old N8 (now R639) and there is a stretch that was 100kph and recently was changed to 80kph. It’s one of the widest, straightest sections of road that’s not Motorway in the country, so It’s totally insane to limit it to 80kph… But here we are.
And what’s that going to do? If they weren’t adhering to the current speed limit, they are definitely not going to adhere to the new one.
Ah great.
Speeders that did 110 on a 100 will keep doing 110 on 80 anyway.
Decent drivers doing 90 – 100 now will be doing 70 – 80, with absolutely pointless journey time increase (dead time).
Turtles that did <80, now I’ll be doing <60. Causing even more multi car overtakes…
For most rural roads, you’d have to be a bit thick to be going at 80 anyways.
Ah fantastic so now I get to add 20 mins to my commute in the morning. What a fucking ridiculous idea. The people who speed won’t pay any attention to this and just dangerously drive behind anyone actually tries follow the speed limits. Load of bollox that only serves to punish commuters by adding more time and bullshit to their commute.
My road is an 80km/h road, narrow, winding, with blind corners. It has been 80km/h since they switched from mph, before that there was no speed posted. My question is why it was ever 80km/h knowing it would always be reduced. Anyone doing 80 would be charged with dangerous driving on my road.
Can they not report it based on what roads specifically will be changed because there seems to be some confusion over the wording used. I’ve assumed by rural roads, they mean the L roads. While the secondary national roads are the R roads.
For the R roads it really should be a road by road basis. Some are crap, while some are very well built and maintained to allow higher speeds.
As for the L roads, how often they hold the 80 sign, a blanket speed limit for all of them, even though driving them will let you know many are nowhere near wide or maintained enough to go 80 (you can try, but it’s dangerousand inconsiderate of other drivers and locals living on those roads), yet a handful could easily retain the 80 limit.
Where’s the road by road basis we were told would happen?
Just fix the roads!
Dara o brien the supreme cunt takes on transform in Ireland
Nobody wants this
Fucking good
So many of these roads are 80 because ah sure yano the turns yourself.
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Restrict the cars no speeding then simples
Can everyone finally agree this shite is a money making scheme. Like many have pointed out we need enforcement not lower limits and speed cameras everywhere
Our new Junior ministers from Kerry won’t allow that ….
On some roads that’s desperately overdue.
On other roads it’ll be wildly inappropriate a lot of the time.
Ah now boss how na goin keep her lit and spin her off goin fuward.
Ah sure that’s grand if I’m stuck behind someone doing 60, I’ve a load of YouTubing and TikToking to catch up on.. /s
The problem here is every road is different, there are roads that are 60km limits that could be 100km, and ones that are 80 that should be 50km. They’re just slapping 60 on to ever road in a certain category now which is not going to make an ounce of difference.
As if there’s going to be a speed van on a rural country road, it’s just going to result in one person getting impatient, and passing out someone resulting in a crash
All this is going to do is encourage drivers who once followed the limit to break limits. If they are a 60 road, that was once 80, they will do 100. If they are going to be penalised they might as well make it worth it.
The speed limits aren’t the problem. A lower limit will not stop any accidents or deaths.
The problem in this country is the fact that 90% of Joe Public hasn’t a single iota of a clue how to drive. I come across ridiculous situations on a daily basis.
Speed is a scapegoat for making it look like the government is doing something.
What we need is mandatory retesting. Both every 5 years, and when you have an accident. This business of getting your driving licence at 17 and never seeing a tester again, or causing an accident that could have, or did kill somebody, and not being charged or punished simply because they weren’t speeding is ridiculous.
Apparently it’s A ok to knock me off my motorcycle provided they don’t break the speed limit. They won’t be forced to serve a disqualification or retested for almost killing me.
That’s the problem in this country, not speed.
This will knock on the cost of living. Delivery drivers will have to take longer, meaning less drops per day.
Variable limits on rural roads should be the common sense approach IMO – say 60km on narrower sections, reducing down to 50km on tight bends and whatnot but on the long straight sections, 80km seems appropriate. Some roads (for eg.R618 and R619 in Cork) do have wide sections with excellent visibility ahead, and 80km is perfectly fine.
That all said…I’d applaud anyone who could even reach 50km let alone the 80km limit on this road near my village 🤪
https://preview.redd.it/xcm4tpnre1fe1.png?width=1080&format=png&auto=webp&s=920542e0c4405efa52eade9e5bcab7e5acde6b20
Every stretch of road should have its allocated speed limit like in Spain. If the road is a 90 it means you can go 90, if it’s 50 then it could be very windy and mountainy or have sharp bends.
Irish speed limits make no sense to me. Plenty of counties have blanket 80 speed limits when the roads could easily be 100 and other roads are 100 and maybe you can only do 50.
Can we just make it 50 and install cameras and ticket every car via camera. So much money to be made. Will pay for dail top up many times over.
This is a stupid idea for a lot of rural roads
This will only add to the cost of living.
All last mile transportation costs will increase by about 40%.
What data shows that making this reduction in limits will reduce road death effectively?
Can’t imagine the effect this will have on diesel vehicles.
I’m not sure what will work but I don’t think this is it unfortunately. At the same time I 100% agree that 80km on some of these backroads is outrageously fast. Far too difficult to react when something unexpected happens.
One stat I learned recently about road deaths which surprised me was the number of deaths which were male pedestrians who had been drinking…it averages around 10% of all road deaths. Far higher than I’d have expected.
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