Donald Trump Pulling US Troops From Europe in Blow to NATO Allies: Report

https://www.newsweek.com/trump-us-troops-europe-nato-2019728

by Moist-Meat-Popsicle

25 comments

  2. This is fine. The EU needs its own army. Time to build and move away from American influence.

  3. We should start to push for and spread on media “USA is to big for us Americans, we want to break it up into smaller independent countries” spread the word.

  4. Unsurprising. The US will leave NATO anyway before invading Greenland. Putin can’t stop rubbing one out over this.

  5. The last few years have really made me test my thoughts on Europe and the future of Europe. I’m deeply disappointed in our so called “leaders” response to Russian aggression and now the whole Greenland affair. The complete stasis and absolute inertia to do anything significant is deeply pathetic. [We’re just happy to let Greenland go and join Trump in a Compact of Free Association Agreement so that he gets unrestricted access to all the rare earth minerals](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8OvuRPeYgk&ab_channel=CNBC) used in the production of technology whether military or otherwise – they should be OUR minerals!

    It’s really made me question the vision for Europe. Maybe the Draghi Report was right and Europe is in decline. Since the 1970s Europe has not created a single solitary company with a market cap of 100 Billion – in that same timeframe America has created several trillion dollar companies – Apple, Microsoft, Alphabet, Berkshire Hathaway, Meta, Amazon, Nvidia etc etc

    In 2008 when Barrack Obama was elected President the Eurozone economy was the same size as the American economy. Today, the [American economy is almost twice as large as the Eurozone economy](https://i.imgur.com/MI1raQJ.jpeg). That’s the mathematics of it. Anything to the contrary is merely an emotional response – not a scientific one. China has overtaken us as the second largest economy in the world. We are failing, and we’re failing BADLY. Perhaps our best days are behind us because we will never be able to project outward a sign of strength in the world if we don’t federalise. All those great leaders throughout the centuries in Europe…..where are you all now?! We need you more than ever.

  6. Around 1.5m active military personel in Europe and 2.3m reserves. Pretty sure we will be fine without these 20k troops.

  7. Generals must be squirming now… Pulling out of Europe means the US will lose a lot of capacity to project power in africa, middle east and asia.

  8. Great news. It would be really awkward to have 100.000 POWs when the US starts invading an allied nation.

  10. 20k out of the 100k that are here. 80k will still be here (at least for now).

  11. Over the last 3-4 years I was somewhat uneasy about (but ultimately supported) the high military spending plans of the last 2 Polish governments. Seeing headlines like these makes me think we made the right call after all.

  13. FINALLY.

    We need to stop thinking that we need the US in Europe.

    If the US wants their military in Europe, then they should fucking pay for it.

  14. Can we start stationing European troops in Greenland pretty pls.

  15. This is history repeating itself. It is the normal evolution at the end of an empire era. History saw French big business evolve from supporting the empire before World War I to seeing it as a waste of money by the 1950s, largely due to its falling importance in world trade. The 1950s were also critical years in economic decolonization for Britain’s trading interest as they shifted away from the empire-Commonwealth. USA is evolving through the same as it slows in economic relevance on the global stage, losing ground to the likes of China who is building an economic empire witnessed with “one belt one road”

  16. Yeah 20k troops really isn’t that much, and we constantly rotate troops in and out of europe… Thats not the biggest news trump has done o.o

  17. Poor US soldiers, now have to go home to the shit they voted for.

  18. The goal should be zero US troops in Europe considering the circumstances.

  19. Fuck these misleading headlines. It’s a minor percentage of the US troops, the wording gave me anxiety thinking he was pulling the whole US presence on the continent, which as crazy as it sounds wouldn’t be that out of place in the current timeline

  20. I think its a perfect incentive for EU to replace US troops with their own. We need to rebuild our military anyways so it’s better to spend on our own than on USA troops.

  21. Gonna go against the grain here but I *kinda* agree with what Donald Tusk (the polish PM) says in the article :

    >”We shouldn’t be irritated. We shouldn’t be appalled,” Tusk told lawmakers of the European Parliament, Reuters reported. “Some think it’s extravagant or it is a brutal or malicious warning.

    > “Only an ally can wish another ally to get stronger. This is not what an opponent of Europe would say. I would like to tell you that this is a time when Europe cannot afford to save on security.”

    Whether Trump really wants european countries to get stronger remains to be proven but seeing how some european countries just stubbornly refuse to build their own capable military, maybe the only way they’ll understand is by putting their back against the wall. I really wish it wouldn’t come to that but Trump flipping the script is one way to do it before it’s a russian invasion that does.

  22. Hopefully this will make Europeans unite even more. Though it wouldn’t surprise if the idiocy / self-servingness of some European leaders hold everybody else back.

  24. Serious question: do we have any disadvantage to pull a reverse uno card and become buddies with China? At least they are not unhinged or threathening us. Not intervening in our elections or politics in a noticable way.

    Probably they could keep Russia at bay as well.

    For me, definitely preferable than orange shitstains from nazifarts across the pond.

  25. Let this be the final end of trusting Americans in anything to do with European security. A country that might go insane every 4 years is simply incapable of being a trustworthy ally.

    For starters, let’s agree: No more buying American weapons if European alternatives are available.

    The French were right all along.

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