These bands on foreign countries getting our data should open Americans eyes to bands being needed for American companies who do the same thing.
If we don’t like it we ban it.
All you have to do is use a VPN. Also, they might ban it in the US, but they can’t ban the world
Yeah, yeah, it’s a Chinese company, collecting data, yada yada,…
So, Is congress going to do anything about data privacy? I mean China can just buy the data from data brokers. It ain’t different.
As a Canadian I just hope now the DDOS attack can stop so I can use Deepseek again
So we gonna spend five years trying to ban it just to unban it? Is that the protocol?
Deepseek is open source. You can set it up locally and thus have the data stored on US servers, and you can use it without internet access.
To anyone reading this: I’m not saying the source is wrong or that OP is wrong (haven’t even read the source tbh), but I’d examine any information coming from or consistent contributors to r/Sino (which OP is) with a grain of salt. Again, that isn’t to say that the well is irrevocably poisoned, but the level of propaganda and groupthink is on par if not slightly worse than r/politics or r/conservative. Literally everything is examined with as positive a ‘China good, China rivals (mostly US) bad’. I’m not saying they outright lie or anything, but if they can will interpret any event to fit that worldview as closely as possible.
So again, read the source, compare against others sources and then come to your conclusion – just as you should with r/politics or r/conservative or anything to be honest, but these places in particular.
Not sure I like the writer, Chris Smith. He’s not exactly honest with his repeated assertions in this article and the one he wrote previously, that China has basically banned everything from the US, so it’s not a problem if the US does the same.
China allows Windows, MacOS, iOS, and Android to run on their devices in China. They have full privileges and the ability to collect and send massive amounts of private information to the US at will without the user’s knowledge. These are full-blown operating systems, not apps. Not everyone needs TikTok, but everyone needs one of these operating systems. Yet China allows them. China allows Apple to sell iPhones in their country, but the US bans Huawei. China allows Twitter and Microsoft Bing to operate in their country. They allow US auto companies to sell in their country, but we effectively ban cars from China citing “national security” by imposing a 100% tariff.
Since it’s open source the bans don’t matter as much when any American company with enough money can run it on their own hardware and remove the censorship controls by editing the source code and fine-tuning the weights.
It’s kinda the main reason why companies like openai keep on pushing for AI regulations to limit open source competition.
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Such a free market! So perfect competition!
These bands on foreign countries getting our data should open Americans eyes to bands being needed for American companies who do the same thing.
If we don’t like it we ban it.
All you have to do is use a VPN. Also, they might ban it in the US, but they can’t ban the world
Yeah, yeah, it’s a Chinese company, collecting data, yada yada,…
So, Is congress going to do anything about data privacy? I mean China can just buy the data from data brokers. It ain’t different.
As a Canadian I just hope now the DDOS attack can stop so I can use Deepseek again
So we gonna spend five years trying to ban it just to unban it? Is that the protocol?
Deepseek is open source. You can set it up locally and thus have the data stored on US servers, and you can use it without internet access.
To anyone reading this: I’m not saying the source is wrong or that OP is wrong (haven’t even read the source tbh), but I’d examine any information coming from or consistent contributors to r/Sino (which OP is) with a grain of salt. Again, that isn’t to say that the well is irrevocably poisoned, but the level of propaganda and groupthink is on par if not slightly worse than r/politics or r/conservative. Literally everything is examined with as positive a ‘China good, China rivals (mostly US) bad’. I’m not saying they outright lie or anything, but if they can will interpret any event to fit that worldview as closely as possible.
So again, read the source, compare against others sources and then come to your conclusion – just as you should with r/politics or r/conservative or anything to be honest, but these places in particular.
Not sure I like the writer, Chris Smith. He’s not exactly honest with his repeated assertions in this article and the one he wrote previously, that China has basically banned everything from the US, so it’s not a problem if the US does the same.
China allows Windows, MacOS, iOS, and Android to run on their devices in China. They have full privileges and the ability to collect and send massive amounts of private information to the US at will without the user’s knowledge. These are full-blown operating systems, not apps. Not everyone needs TikTok, but everyone needs one of these operating systems. Yet China allows them. China allows Apple to sell iPhones in their country, but the US bans Huawei. China allows Twitter and Microsoft Bing to operate in their country. They allow US auto companies to sell in their country, but we effectively ban cars from China citing “national security” by imposing a 100% tariff.
Since it’s open source the bans don’t matter as much when any American company with enough money can run it on their own hardware and remove the censorship controls by editing the source code and fine-tuning the weights.
It’s kinda the main reason why companies like openai keep on pushing for AI regulations to limit open source competition.
I miss the 90s man
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