‘Deeply unsettling for everyone’: Fears among undocumented Irish under Trump administration

by 1DarkStarryNight

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  1. Hard to find sympathy for the modern day Irish undocumented in America given they did this out of choice vs necessity. Absolute worst case they are sent back to Ireland, hardly a 3rd world with no job prospects or safety issues.

  2. Fears among people in a country illegally over facing consequences of said actions

  3. Didn’t they have the same fears 4 years ago? What happened then?

  4. Obey the immigration/residency rules of the country you wish to reside in. End of.

  5. “Brian” and “Martin” don’t sound too bothered, to be honest.  

  6. Funny how we Irish refer to them as *”undocumented”* while others are *”illegal immigrants”*!

  7. This shit always annoyed me. What makes our illegals special vs others? If anything the consequences of them getting deported back here are a damn sight better than those from other countries.

  8. I have very little sympathy with this.

    If you go somewhere and break the law then why are you so shocked when there are consequences for that? I know things a little more nuanced than that un America but still.

    Also I feel even less sympathy for Irish people in particular. This is not the 1800s, or the 1950s or even the 1980s. Nobody is going to America out of dire economic necessity right now. This is just people taking shortcuts.

  9. I know plenty of Irish who now have citizenship and went through this… and still voted for trump. It’s mind blowing.

  10. I know someone who was a friend of my brothers that is undocumented.

    During the first trump administration he made sooooo many posts on Facebook about how great Trump was, profile picture was a maga hat selfie and everything.

    Blocked me as soon as I commented on one of his anti immigrant posts pointing out he was still an illegal immigrant too ha

  11. Gonna be honest, no pity. If you aren’t there legally then tough luck 🤷🏿‍♂️. Besides it’s not like they’d be getting sent back to some war torn nation

  12. No sympathy for any illegal immigrants worried about the law being enforced.

  13. Don’t be an illegal immigrant and you won’t have this issue.

    I have no sympathy for these people, you took the risk now live with it – your actions have consequences. Plenty of other countries they could have gone to legally.

    Illegal economic migrants, not ‘undocumented’.

  14. These fears come up every election. It’s not really something we should be condoning.

  15. They are there illegally. They knew what they were doing.

  16. I had a cousin who was ‘undocumented (illegal) ‘ in America for years. He was eventually caught and deported. He deserved it and so does every single other illegal immigrant.

  17. Undocumented immigrants? I dislike this soft language. I guess shoplifters are just Unreceipted Customers.

  18. “Fear among criminals over being punished for their crime.”

  19. well if it isn’t the consequences of their own actions…

  20. Not sure why Irish people should be illegally in the US. It’s not like there’s no established legal process to enter the US.

    Bring on the downvotes.

  21. I know a couple of people who were in Boston who were deported during Trump’s first presidency, those who are still there are shitting themselves.

    White illegal immigrants are not safe despite what might be reported, they’re pushed the brown/black immigrants on the news because they’re pushing that old rhetoric that those are the people who are dangerous and need to be addressed. In reality they’re clearing out everyone.

  22. Well, they shouldn’t be there if they have no legal right to. If they are so unsettled, they should follow the correct procedures to remain in a country.

  23. I mean I don’t like Trump whatsoever but he has every right to remove people who’ve been there illegally.

    That’s potentially a lot of people returning to Ireland who’ll need housing, jobs, doctors and dentists etc.. so it’ll be a challenge for us but we don’t tolerate it happening here so why should the US be any different

  24. Would this be illegal immigrants of the fighting age men variety??

  25. Well if they are there illegally… we have laws we enforce here about who can come here why can’t they stay or is this more of the if Trump is doing it must be bad

  26. Fears? Why? Of being sent back to Ireland? Ireland is grand sure, no war or famine.

    Isn’t that the line we use when it comes to people coming here from other countries?

  27. Go illegally and get treated like the rest. Boohoo if they get sent home. Should’ve done it by the book.

  28. Crimes a crime. My sympathy is very limited for them, can’t judge them any differently than someone else who did the same thing from another country

  29. I’ve never really understood the sympathy for the ‘undocumented’ Irish. You’re there illegally you should be deported.

  30. No body regardless of colour or nationality should be in another country illegally. FULL STOP.

  31. They should be deported? Theyre literally committing a crime.

  32. There’s a lot of Travellers in the US committing all sorts of construction scams that ICE have their sights on.

  33. It really pisses me off that they use the word “undocumented” for Irish people in other countries but “illegal” for other people in Ireland. Double standards.

  34. Zero sympathy for them. If you want to live a country you live there legally.

  35. Undocumented have always played a blinder. They’re living tax free life until they get caught. I know several who eventually couldn’t get back when after visiting home.

  36. They entered the country illegally. They deserve to be thrown out. Why should they not be bound by the rules we all are?

  37. I wonder what they’ll tell the immigration judge.

    • Ah go on, sure aren’t you also descended from someone Irish? Ah you are, you just don’t know it.
    • You can’t do this to me, I’m white! I’m absolutely pale!
    • No, you see, it’s just for the bad people who came through Mexico.
    • I am fleeing persecution in my home country because, uh, the Christian Brothers, uh, reported me for not paying my TV licence, and uh, then they came for me on the Luas and I knew I had to leave and never go back.

  38. Undocumented also called illegal immigrants.

    There’s no reason at all the Yanks should treat them any differently to any other national group.

    Be realistic.

  39. american popping in here. the immigration system in the U.S. is extremely complicated and very flawed. undocumented people by and large don’t *want* to be undocumented, but many were brought as children or fled their home countries in a flurry facing legal persecution, famine/poverty/disease, or other imminent dangers. i don’t think it’s fair to snark at them and say “well, that’s what you get!” when it may take well over a year to get an *asylum appointment,* the first step to applying for asylum, let alone the fact that immigrants entering through non-emergency legal channels potentially face decades of back and forth before being able to become citizens. it’s expensive, too. it can cost thousands of dollars — even tens of thousands — to cover documents, legal fees, etc.

    i’m not saying that the people in this article are perfect examples one way or another. but it’s not fair to paint all undocumented immigrants with a sweeping brush and just toss the “don’t break the rules” line at them when the system is set up to fail them anyway (especially under trump ii — he’s effectively ended asylum claims, at least for now, even for people who were *already approved to enter the country.*)

  40. I don’t really understand why the “undocumented” Irish think they are special. They are ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS

  41. Lols, 12 years ago as a South African it took me 8 years to prove my Irish birthright. In those 8 years it never crossed my mind to enter Ireland undocumented.
    I’m really not sure why there is such a wave of hysteria about people who are not legally allowed in the country being deported… it’s the rules of every nation on earth.

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