The lesson here is. If you’re already going down for a previous crime. You may as well go on a one man crime spree. Everything after the initial crime is a freebie. Killing included.
How devastating for that poor family.
How are the judges in this country allowed to hand out sentencing that cares not about the victim side?
The concurrent sentencing is disgraceful, it’s so incredibly unfair and cruel it’s hard to fathom it. He should only start his sentence for Joe after he serves his full sentence for the gun crime. Outrageous
The lack of consecutive sentencing in this country is a dangerous system which encourages wanton criminality and undoubtedly costs lives.
Me and you pay, the scum who we pay for in various ways laugh at us.
My heart goes out to them, I didn’t realise that a concurrent sentence was possible for crimes like that.
“In court, after the sentences were imposed, Tim Drennan, the father of Joe Drennan, asked Judge Daly: “Sorry, your honour, does that mean that this fella (Fogarty) will not serve a day (in jail) for killing my son?”.
Earlier the judge had said the hit-and-run sentence would run in addition to the shooting sentence, but later the judge corrected this.
The judge, rising from his bench, did not respond to Tim Drennan’s query, and retired to his private chambers.”
Fair play to the father for addressing the judge with that remark. I’d be heartbroken and livid with disgust if I was him.
Absolute disgrace
So, is this.constant concurrent sentencing due to lack of prison space or what’s the logic?
Can we build a brand new big fuck off prison somewhere?
Ireland has become a shit hole in term of its judicial system. Lenient sentences are an obvious cause of high population with less prison spaces. Nobody wants a prison in there town realistically. So it’s either treat prisoners like wild animals and overcrowd them or you get shit like this.
My heart goes out to the family of Joe. Sickening stuff
Horrible decision I hope the DPP appeals this
Laws need to be changed to deal with cases like this. Driving in a built up busy neighbourhood at 120km/h should not be classified as dangerous driving. This should have been treated as manslaughter at the bare minimum.
A shameful, weak and utterly spineless sentence from judge Daly.
Fogarty is an unrepentant scumbag, I hope he gets the end he deserves.
Really hope the DPP challenges this.
Sad to say this isn’t unusual with drivers and their punishments.
Im not advocating violence here but if one of the family had gone up and given the Judge a dig i think most people would back them over the judge
Fucking hell. Only waiting at a bus stop and this scum tried to wipe away forensic evidence and all
A disgrace.
Law needs to change.
Anyone on a driving ban who kills should be charged with manslaughter or murder.
This is disgusting. I’m furious after reading that. The family deserves justice.
All the hours of investigation, court proceedings, prosecution costs, and defence costs. After killing a man and fleeing the scene and he will not serve a single hour in prison. All funded by us fools.
Career criminals should not have mitigating factors taken into account. They should not be allowed concurrent or suspended sentences. This type of animal deserves a life sentence, and he should remain behind bars until the day he dies.
Helen McEntee and her party of law and order are absolute scabs. Stealing a living from us taxpayers.
So possession of a firearm, already disqualified from driving and add death by dangerous driving, drugs with the intention to supply and go knows what else and they sit concurrent. Fuck me what a backward justice system we have.
Judges fucking the justice system once more. They are the problem, not the guards.
If anyone knows anybody who is out on bail can you let us know? Looking for a criminal to commit some crimes.
Fucking joke.
So he literally got away with killing Joe Scot free?
Absolutely bizarre but nothing surprises me with Irish judges.
This is absolutely disgraceful. How this can be justified is beyond me. He won’t serve a day for killing a young lad with his entire life ahead of him.
How is this justice? My thoughts are with the family. There’s no justice here for them.
The criminal justice system in this country is broken.
This takes the fuckin cake altogether. Really hope the DPP appeals this ridiculously lenient sentencing
I will never understand the logic of concurrent sentences. If anything it encourages crime.
Shocking to see this absolute scrote essentially let away with murder.
Someone with some legal background please help me out here – but I thought concurrent sentences were for times when you commit multiple crimes in the same ‘episode’ or they are linked – e.g. you break into a house and attack someone, you could be concurrently sentenced for the break in and the attack.
Not ‘shoot at some kids’ one day and ‘kill a man with a car’ a few weeks later?
Firstly, sincere condolences to Joe’s family.
Consider this… if Fogarty had completed his sentence for the shooting, walked out of jail, and only then killed Joe, he would have been sentenced to (and served) an appropriate amount of time. So, the punishment is entirely dependent on timing? Ridiculous.
What got me was that he wiped down the car before fleeing the scene. Knew exactly what he did and intended to get away with it. Texts to his mother also indicated this. Remorseless little shit head.
Fully supportive of this family wanting an appeal. You could tell how loved that young man was and how cheated they feel of justice.
This is a disgraceful sentence the little prick should have consecutive sentences where is the justice
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The lesson here is. If you’re already going down for a previous crime. You may as well go on a one man crime spree. Everything after the initial crime is a freebie. Killing included.
How devastating for that poor family.
How are the judges in this country allowed to hand out sentencing that cares not about the victim side?
The concurrent sentencing is disgraceful, it’s so incredibly unfair and cruel it’s hard to fathom it. He should only start his sentence for Joe after he serves his full sentence for the gun crime. Outrageous
The lack of consecutive sentencing in this country is a dangerous system which encourages wanton criminality and undoubtedly costs lives.
Me and you pay, the scum who we pay for in various ways laugh at us.
My heart goes out to them, I didn’t realise that a concurrent sentence was possible for crimes like that.
“In court, after the sentences were imposed, Tim Drennan, the father of Joe Drennan, asked Judge Daly: “Sorry, your honour, does that mean that this fella (Fogarty) will not serve a day (in jail) for killing my son?”.
Earlier the judge had said the hit-and-run sentence would run in addition to the shooting sentence, but later the judge corrected this.
The judge, rising from his bench, did not respond to Tim Drennan’s query, and retired to his private chambers.”
Fair play to the father for addressing the judge with that remark. I’d be heartbroken and livid with disgust if I was him.
Absolute disgrace
So, is this.constant concurrent sentencing due to lack of prison space or what’s the logic?
Can we build a brand new big fuck off prison somewhere?
Ireland has become a shit hole in term of its judicial system. Lenient sentences are an obvious cause of high population with less prison spaces. Nobody wants a prison in there town realistically. So it’s either treat prisoners like wild animals and overcrowd them or you get shit like this.
My heart goes out to the family of Joe. Sickening stuff
Horrible decision I hope the DPP appeals this
Laws need to be changed to deal with cases like this. Driving in a built up busy neighbourhood at 120km/h should not be classified as dangerous driving. This should have been treated as manslaughter at the bare minimum.
A shameful, weak and utterly spineless sentence from judge Daly.
Fogarty is an unrepentant scumbag, I hope he gets the end he deserves.
Really hope the DPP challenges this.
Sad to say this isn’t unusual with drivers and their punishments.
Im not advocating violence here but if one of the family had gone up and given the Judge a dig i think most people would back them over the judge
Fucking hell. Only waiting at a bus stop and this scum tried to wipe away forensic evidence and all
A disgrace.
Law needs to change.
Anyone on a driving ban who kills should be charged with manslaughter or murder.
This is disgusting. I’m furious after reading that. The family deserves justice.
All the hours of investigation, court proceedings, prosecution costs, and defence costs. After killing a man and fleeing the scene and he will not serve a single hour in prison. All funded by us fools.
Career criminals should not have mitigating factors taken into account. They should not be allowed concurrent or suspended sentences. This type of animal deserves a life sentence, and he should remain behind bars until the day he dies.
Helen McEntee and her party of law and order are absolute scabs. Stealing a living from us taxpayers.
So possession of a firearm, already disqualified from driving and add death by dangerous driving, drugs with the intention to supply and go knows what else and they sit concurrent. Fuck me what a backward justice system we have.
Judges fucking the justice system once more. They are the problem, not the guards.
If anyone knows anybody who is out on bail can you let us know? Looking for a criminal to commit some crimes.
Fucking joke.
So he literally got away with killing Joe Scot free?
Absolutely bizarre but nothing surprises me with Irish judges.
This is absolutely disgraceful. How this can be justified is beyond me. He won’t serve a day for killing a young lad with his entire life ahead of him.
How is this justice? My thoughts are with the family. There’s no justice here for them.
The criminal justice system in this country is broken.
This takes the fuckin cake altogether. Really hope the DPP appeals this ridiculously lenient sentencing
I will never understand the logic of concurrent sentences. If anything it encourages crime.
Shocking to see this absolute scrote essentially let away with murder.
Someone with some legal background please help me out here – but I thought concurrent sentences were for times when you commit multiple crimes in the same ‘episode’ or they are linked – e.g. you break into a house and attack someone, you could be concurrently sentenced for the break in and the attack.
Not ‘shoot at some kids’ one day and ‘kill a man with a car’ a few weeks later?
Firstly, sincere condolences to Joe’s family.
Consider this… if Fogarty had completed his sentence for the shooting, walked out of jail, and only then killed Joe, he would have been sentenced to (and served) an appropriate amount of time. So, the punishment is entirely dependent on timing? Ridiculous.
What got me was that he wiped down the car before fleeing the scene. Knew exactly what he did and intended to get away with it. Texts to his mother also indicated this. Remorseless little shit head.
Fully supportive of this family wanting an appeal. You could tell how loved that young man was and how cheated they feel of justice.
This is a disgraceful sentence the little prick should have consecutive sentences where is the justice
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