‘No difference’ between Labour & Tories, according to two thirds of the public — including a majority of 2024 Labour voters
by bottish
‘No difference’ between Labour & Tories, according to two thirds of the public — including a majority of 2024 Labour voters
by bottish
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With how a lot of labour messaging sounds, they don’t seem that fucking different
Careful.
You’re going to make a certain Rouge Midlander aroused with this poll.
It’s interesting because only half of people are below average intelligence.
People in England get a false choice. Here it is quite clearly English parties vs Scott8sh ones.
The saving grace of being trapped in the Union is the Union doesn’t even want to be in the Union.
The competing party vote is split up by a number of parties who are somehow even more corrupt & inept than the SNP but also don’t care about Scotland.
I totally understand being No, but I will never be able to understand how content No voters seem to be with how little the people they vote for care about them or Scotland.
At least if I’m generally yes & SNP, I can feel terrible voting for them after the scandals but see they’ve at least had policies which have helped everyone in my life in ways most governments just don’t do.
Ah but…… thur nae jist Red Tories…..blah blah… SNP bad….blah blahup the 🇬🇧 etc etc.
See, saved the usual mumpers the bother. 😁😁😁
I’m sorry, whatever you think of labour, 66% of people thinking they’re the same as Bojo, Truss, and Sunak is insanity. The unprecedented levels of chaos and sleaze really was incomparable. And people like Jenrick, who are still senior Tory front benchers, are genuine fruit loops.
These types of polls, with questions like this, are just done to manufacture headlines. I’m pretty sure you’d get very similar results whatever party the question was asked about.
If anything it just shows how short the electorate’s memory is.
Why is it always so hard to find the data for these posts? Can’t find anything on the statsforlefties or moreincommon sites
Interesting that even an overwhelming “will of the people” majority of Labour voters agree that they are the same as the Tories!
I think things will get worse before the next GE. They have been too cowardly to try and do real change – instead messing about with things like the Winter Fuel Allowance and inheritance tax on farmers.
That really isn’t enough to turn things around – so they are going to have to do more unpopular things – which they will then bottle/ u-turn as we are getting closer to the next GE.
I don’t think the changes to Planning laws down in England will help either. The volume house builders will just grab the profits from reduced development costs from a simpler Planning process – while keeping the actual pace of housebuilding slow enough to keep prices high. Absolutely wonderful for the profits for housebuilders – shit for everyone else.
What a waste of a massive Parliamentary majority. There was an opportunity there to do real change from day one. Instead we get aimless tinkering – and a one term Labour government.
I’m not a huge fan of Labour under Starmer, and there’s plenty of things I’m happy to criticise them on for not being different enough from the Tories, but polls like this are pretty much meaningless at this stage.
People, by and large, don’t really grasp the concept of economic inertia. It takes months for a new government to even get their policies through parliament, even longer for the effects of those to be fully felt on the economy. Yes, there are some things that can have a more immediate effect, and the market will often have an initial reaction, but that usually settles back down to normal quickly. For the most part, the economy doesn’t just switch the second a new guy steps into office; it’s a gradual change that can happen over years.
In other words, with Labour only having been in office for ~6 months, following 14 years of the Tories, we’re still largely living under the effects of the previous Tory governments. But most people don’t really understand that and tend to blame whoever is in charge at the moment for the current state of the economy. So if you ask people now, most are going to say they aren’t feeling any real difference under Labour, because they aren’t.
Ask people in 4 years time how much difference they’re feeling under Labour vs the Tories, and for better or worse, they’ll probably have a different answer.
We know. The Red Tories have continued on the same path that their pals, the Blue Tories, started trudging down 14 or so years ago.
So what? This is obvious, and because of the FPTP system, in practice what it means is that we are going to get Farage as the next PM, while the SNP will continue to be elected on a pure protest vote which never culminates in an effective independence movement that could actually deliver Scotland from any of this, because they lead the independence movement from the rear.
As much as I really dislike the current Labour government, this type of rhetoric is dangerous. It’s the same kind of rhetoric that meant that people in the US didn’t show up to vote for the Democrats allowing Trump to win and start their takeover of American democracy. “They’re all the same” put Starmer against any of the past 5 or 10 Tory leaders and I know which one I’d pick every single time
I don’t understand, everyone can see they have different coloured ties. Surely that makes them different?
Step 1. Elect Trump/Musk
Step 2. Trump/Musk catalyse and fund far right ascendancy across Europe.
Step 3. Elect Farage.
Step 4. Far right ascendancy catalyses remaining progressive enclaves to bunker mentality.
Step 5. Scottish Independence and Labour irrelevance (it becomes SNP/LibDem/Green perpetual coalition).
Step 8. English Independence and Labour irrelevance (it becomes Reform vs. Tories)
(Optional additional steps)
Step 7. Irish Reunification and continued Labour irrelevance
Step 8. Wales votes to become county of England, giving Labour at least a home but continued irrelevance.
Flawless logic, I see what there doing..
I love the logic of these people.
“They are both shit” sure, Frankie. But one is a few rabbit shits, the other is snorkeling in a septic tank.
Two thirds of people are wrong and/or so apathetic toward politics to a degree they don’t acknowledge or differentiate them then.
It is absolutely ludicrous to claim there’s “no difference” between the Tories and Labour in almost every way.
People look at Centrist economic policy and an inability to make enormous increases to public spending as if that’s Conservatism because the vast majority of the electorate don’t understand macroeconomics.
That ain’t Labour. Might have the name, but that’s as far as it goes.
Shock headline “red yoons the same as blue yoons!”
Independence is the only true change Scotland can get.
There’s no difference between current Labour and what we’d traditionally think of as Tories. There’s still room for a few sheets of cigarette paper between Labour and what the Tories are now.
That’s not an endorsement for Labour, it’s just a damning comment on the Tories.
The colour choices suck if you’re red/green colourblind.
Downing Street was one of the most fined streets from the COVID Lockdown. The conservatives wrote the laws, broke it, ended up fined and we had criminals in the highest office of the land.
It’s 2025, Keir Starmer told you the country is in ruin, they need to put taxes up to pay for various increases to services that the public has asked for, along with settling the various Tory timebombs that I’m not gonna get into, I’d hit the 10,000 character limit.
You according to the public are no different than the Tory party.
The public is fuckin pish. And I say that as an SNP Supporter.
Pro independence here..
I used to describe the Tory Party as selfish delusional corrupt cunts but then unfortunately over the past decade, the ones they used to keep chained up in the basement got out and now they are seemingly considered Tory Prime Minister material. As such, I’d describe the Tory Party now as selfish delusional corrupt overtly racist fucking cunts.
In contrast, there’s many things I don’t agree with Labour on and I’m not exactly pleased with how they go about their business or the current Government but I’d never for second describe the Labour Party as selfish delusional corrupt overtly racist fucking cunts.
tldr: While Labour might not be the answer (in my opinion), they are not the same as the Tories.
People are only just figuring out they aren’t ALL the same? Labour, Tories, SNP….only in it for themselves, the lot of them
We’re on the titanic, we hit an iceberg, and we’ve just changed the captain to one who says that he would have avoided the iceberg.
That doesn’t stop the ship from sinking, people.
What exactly were people expecting? The economy to transform into a budding flower? Housing to spontaneously erupt from the ground? Migrants to suddenly decide France is far enough? An immediate ceasefire in Ukraine and Gaza? Are these the same folk who thought Brexit was going to be a Panacea, or that Scottish independence would suddenly make Scotland into a Scandinavian paradise? If ever there was a poll to demonstrate how few people understand politics, this might be it.
They are all politicians and therefore dance for who owns them. Labour and Conservatives are both sides of the same coin.
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