‘We all make mistakes’: Richard Tice defends Reform MP who assaulted ex-girlfriend as he rules out suspension

https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/reform-party-james-mcmurdock-richard-tice-assault-girlfriend/

by tylerthe-theatre

29 comments

  1. Tommy Rot Robinsons EDL pal got 18 years for child grooming … but Tommy Rot wont be talking about that …

  2. Amazing I didn’t realise you could get away with whatever you want so long as you say “I’m only human” afterwards

  3. That’s makes it ok then

    “We all make mistakes. Defence rests your honour”

  4. Ticw was asked why Isabel Oakeshott currently has two black eyes. He responded ‘Because she didn’t answer the first time, the slaaaaaag’

  5. Probably controversial but I’m not necessarily against those with historic spent convictions from becoming MPs. We’re a representative democracy and ex-cons are a non-insignificant part of the population and it’s an area we’re not exactly good at… rehabilitating, especially young offenders.

    But the approach here stinks, if he’s that reformed he wouldn’t be downplaying it as a push and this wouldn’t only be coming out after being elected. He is very clearly not the type of ex-con who actually might be a value add to parliament and give them a reality check about the shambles of a system, the defence here is pretty pathetic.

  6. I appreciate not a popular opinion but I don’t have an issue with this.

    Guy does something really bad as a teenager. Pleads guilty, goes to jail and serves his sentence repaying his debt to society. Then in the next 20 years is not accused of anything similar and decides to work in public service.

    Is this not a successful rehabilitation? Even a redemption story?

    Obviously there is no defending what he did but I don’t think it should disqualify him from wanting to work in public service 20 years later? He’s served his punishment.

  7. good to know someone can slap the shit out of him then say it was just a mistake

  8. I think that this is a real, systematic problem with modern politics.

    If you take the situation seriously and objectively, it is actually a validation of our society. A kid from a working class background, grew up in a council house, first person from his family to go to university. Committed a disgraceful crime, served time, has by all accounts rehabilitated himself, found a job, was successful in a highly competitive field, stood as a candidate for politics, acted as his own election agent, and won a narrow victory. This shows that both social mobility and rehabilitative justice are a thing.

    The problem is that it should be obvious to absolutely anyone with a brain that if it was a Labour, Conservative or Lib Dem candidate that assaulted a woman and went to prison for it and defeated a Reform candidate by 98 votes, they would never have shut up about it. It would have been a grand evil conspiracy to defraud the public. Similarly, if the shoe was on the other foot, each member of the political tribe would be defending their own while attacking the other parties.

    We kind of need to decide once whether this sort of thing is okay for everyone or not, set the societal norm, and then apply it consistently. If we decide that they shouldn’t become MPs, then I think we should tell people, in advance, when they are leaving prison, that it doesn’t matter if they never reoffend, if they get married and care for their kids, if they get a successful job, or anything else, that they are going to be barred from certain walks of life because they are deemed irredeemable.

  9. Ahh, boys will be boys and all that. A clip round the ear there or a fat lip over here never hurt anyone did it eh Rich?

    Honestly, I swear some of these dipshits are trying to reverse human evolution and drag us back into the fucking sea.

  10. Tice “We all beat up partners, run as an MP and try to hide and downplay our violent actions when asked.”

    If this guy was honest about what happened from the start then maybe the grotesque grifter Tice might have a point, but as we know they tried to hide the truth.

  11. “We all make mistakes but only the ones made by people we dont like count”

  12. I bet if it was an immigrant these peeps wouldnt be so forgiving

  13. At 42 I’ve made many many mistakes, assaulting a women has never been one of those mistakes as I was raised right

  14. Funny how being sympathetic to criminals and allowing them to reform themselves ends the moment it’s politically convenient to do so. Tice is right to not hold him accountable for something he did 18 years ago. Evaluate him based on who he is today (which I have no idea about, I’m just talking about the topic in question). Your past does play a part, but people should be allowed to grow unless the crime is too severe. Why conform to opponents who want to sabotage you?

  16. In Reforms defence, if they start suspending MPs for domestic abuse and such then they wouldn’t have any MPs.

  17. Look, guys, I know it’s tempting to punch tice in the face, but it would be a mistake. And we ALL make mistakes.

  18. Ghandi admitted to beating his wife and yet we built statues for him 

  19. I mean, he will fit right in at the Commons bar at least.

  20. Is it a mistake Mr Tice would make? What mistakes has Mr Tice made?

  21. So, can people who aren’t MPs use the same defense in a court of law and expect to escape the consequences of their actions? No? Huh.

  22. So immigrants need to be deported for the “mistake” of existing but he doesn’t even get a suspension for being a full blown criminal?

  23. So reform thinks that kicking the shit out your ex-girlfriend is perfectly acceptable.
    That should tell you enough.

  24. Slapping your girlfriend about isn’t a ‘mistake’ it is a deliberate and wilful act. Tice is shameful for defending him, tells you all you need to know.

  27. Reform are going to have to be really careful with what hill they are willing to die on. Defending this wanker will make them lose votes.

    Worth adding that Suella Bravermans husband has recently defected to Reform as well, so doesn’t look like they’re gathering the nicest bunch either.

  28. This is just the media trying to use anything to smear the reform party.

    It was a juvenile conviction that he spent time in a juvenile detention centre for over 20years ago,
    It’s quite remarkable his story if you actually read into it he change his whole life around!

    He probably has more life experience than the entire front bench of the Labour Party!

  29. Probably not the consensus take here, but I think this is absolutely the right call. Having something bad on your record from 18 years ago shouldn’t disqualify you from public service today. And I suspect that, if this was a politician for your favoured party rather than Reform, you’d probably consider it a witch hunt to try to remove them for spurious reasons.

    Our justice system works on the principle that offences have sentences, this guy did something serious, served his punishment and it shouldn’t be a life sentence in addition to that.

    There are probably plenty of reasons not to vote for this guy, since he’s part of Reform, but this isn’t one of them.

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