Teacher told pupil to ‘f*** off’ after ‘red-faced’ teen called him a ‘fat c***’

https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/teacher-told-pupil-f-off-30882093

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24 comments
  1. Talk to me like an “adult” and you’ll get replied to like an “adult” perfectly reasonable if you ask me but here we are, in a society that doesn’t like giving people consequences to their actions even if it is just a few words

  2. I only made it half way through the article but I think teachers should be able to tell students to fuck off. It doesn’t happen enough and lots of those little tramps deserve it.

  3. Oh noes, a teacher swore.

    I’m more concerned with the teachers who abuse kids, or just the general fucking disgrace of schools and lack of adequate funding, not a mere ‘fuck off’ to an abusive kid.

  4. Remember a teacher getting struck off in Scotland, – the little twat asked the teacher “why are you so fat?” – the teacher collapsed the arse off the wee twat with “every time I pump your maw, she makes me a sandwich” !! Struck off, but going out in style ..

  5. It’s such a sad situation. A child failed by their family, a child willing to disrespect their teacher, and an educator so burnt out (I do assume) that they no longer care. I hope they are both doing OK, but it’s sad to read.

  6. I taught French and German in a secondary school for three years before deciding I didn’t want to be an emotional punching bag for teenagers with shit parents.

    Good on the teacher for telling him to fuck off. Children these days have absolutely zero respect, and the behaviour in most schools now is honestly horrific.

    Bearing in mind that I was one of the “liked teachers” in my school, I was spat at, kicked, punched, had things thrown at me. It’s really really shocking, and it’s no wonder that teachers are leaving the profession in droves.

  7. Honestly, with the state of teaching as it is, I wouldn’t be surprised if we saw far more of this in the future.

    I have so many friends leaving the profession because of the lack of support when it comes to unruly kids.

  8. Year 11? So 15 or 16? Yeah he can fuck off, more than old enough get spoken to like the little shit he probably is.

  9. why is this even a news article

    breaking news: a student is out of line and a teacher gets upset at that student

  10. One or two used to tell some board lickers to fuck off out their class occasionally when I was at school. Why is this news some teacher telling some other board licker to fuck off. At least they’ll be hearing a phrase they’ll get for the rest of their life

  11. You know what the worst part of that article is? The fact that his two colleagues/superiors testifying appeared to completely throw him under the bus.

    I’ve seen it so many times. Teachers pushed to breaking point by appalling behaviour and little to no support. Then something happens and senior staff are right there claiming that THEIR school doesn’t have a behaviour problem, of course THEIR staff are supported, THEIR kids are just “challenging” occasionally. It’s disgusting.

    He was wrong to respond like that, sounds like he knows he was wrong. But the current bad culture around education in this country won’t change until parents and leadership (and public) accept and confront what the teachers are actually facing.

  12. Wow, if I’d known this was a tribunal matter I could probably have wiped out most of the staff at my school.

  13. I only left school 11 years ago and it was commonplace for teachers to swear at the pupils if we were being twats. It’s sort of hilarious/pathetic that it’s now somehow newsworthy.

    You’re in danger of allowing bad behaviour to go unchecked if this is how bad it’s gotten.

  14. It reminds me of when the class clown annoyed our English teacher to the point she broke down and literally couldn’t deal with his interruptions anymore.

    She lashed out at him and *accidentally* slightly hit him with her lanyard as she pulled it off herself. She went on a rampage, throwing all her paperwork into the bin and stormed out the room frustrated, crying.

    Later, we were required by the school to file witness accounts. She got the sack.

  15. Ngl if I found out this happened to my child and I learned why the teacher said this, I’d be getting my child to write a letter of apology.

  16. This is what happens when fathers can’t smack kids.

  17. Why is this front page news? Of all the shite going on in this country nowadays and they choose to highlight swearing at a student? Fucking hell…

  18. Teaching must be so difficult now. I wouldn’t do it.

  19. >In a separate incident, Mr Jones admitted that he had yelled “shut your face” at a student known as Learner B during a school assembly when he thought the pupil had called him “the n word”. However, he denied leaning over the child as he did so.

    >The pupil insisted that he had referred to the teacher as a “nugget”, not the “n word”, the hearing was told. 

    >he was guilty of unacceptable professional conduct at Ysgol Rhiwabon, in that:
    (b) on or around 15 March 2023:
    (i) in response to Learner Two referring to him as a “nugget”, he bent over (not admitted) and shouted close to Learner Two’s face and/or told him to “shut your face”, or words to that effect;

    I think out of everything mentioned, this is the part of the article that frustrated me the most to read.

    It’s not something that could be proved either way, but who actually believes that the word was “nugget”? I don’t understand why the benefit of the doubt only appears to go the kid’s way, and the teacher’s been found ‘guilty’ of reacting to “nugget”, which is a completely different scenario to reacting to a racial slur.

    The headteacher denies there’s no effective policy in place, and claims that her teachers are supported, but she’s completely disproved by the findings only appearing to pass judgment on ‘in response to Learner Two referring to him as a “nugget” ‘, with no mention of the racial slur.

  20. If we don’t start giving power back into teachers’ hands, no amount of money thrown at education can save our education system from falling apart.

  21. Sometimes people just slip, it happens. Can’t fault humans for being humans. I’ve had to bite my tounge so many times at work, I worry one day I’ll slip myself.

  22. The best revenge the teacher can do and ensure they don’t get sacked is basically teach the kids to do worse and ensure their future life and career is terrible

  23. I had a similar interaction with one teacher when I was at school 25 years ago. It would never have occurred to me to report him, my parents would not have taken my side if they’d heard the details.

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