Why should they, unless you can prove some sort of corporate negligence which would be very difficult. They aren’t doing “good will” because ESB Networks doesn’t have domestic customers.
Plus act of god sort of thing
Most major services have service uptime SLAs and compensate for downtime.
Reason why the aren’t compensating is the precident and the potential of them having to fork out in the future.
Can argue both ways whether affected customers would or should be compensated.
If customers want to be compensated… ESB will just go after landowners whos trees fell on the lines…
Surely they don’t have to pay standing charge for the days they were without though? Right?
Of course they won’t be “compensated”, it’s a ridiculous suggestion.
Compensation implies a loss on the part of the customer due to negligence on the part of the service provider.
“Act of God” is a very standard exception clause in virtually every contract on earth. It would be unreasonable to expect a service provider to compensate for breach of contract due to natural calamities outside of their control.
This is where Government is supposed to fill the gap; people should be looking to their local authorities for this compensation on social welfare grounds, not to service providers.
Someone in the tabloid media decided to ask a stupid question and make a big deal out of it, as usual.
The standing charge is roughly around €0.63. If people want a €6 refund that badly then fair enough.
Can ESB be sued for this? Of all the silly suing cultures in Ireland, this should be the one that people do.
But then act of God… (so is falling from luas, in parking lots or any other stupid falls).
Maybe the standing charge for those in one off and dispersed housing should be higher to offset the cost of this poor way of development?
People who have been without power should sue them then.
People can apply to the social welfare for help after the storm. It’s called the humanitarian assistance scheme.
People do realize and he mentioned it in that article that we are going to get charged more next year to pay for the repairs from this storm.
So arguing for a refund is not going to work. You’ll end up paying one way or another
I keep thinking about the 60km that has 150 customers on it. Htf is that sustainable, someone decides to live in ballyarsenowhere but expect the same provision as those living in a town. I don’t know the solution but one off housing is costing us taxpayers big time from school buses to district nurses something has to be done.
People need to take ownership for the choice of where they live. If they want to live in a remote area, like up a mountain or beside a scenic lake, then provide themselves with contingencies like a gas burner, hybrid car or backup generator. If not, live in an urban area. If you want half way house live in town parts of rural area. Above all stop looking for compensation for your location choices.
We are currently living in a rural area which I absolutely love normally. Last few weeks were a pain, but we got on with it.
Having no electricity for at least a week and half now and then getting a big elec bill would be awful
Unless there’s a lot of investment to bury what cables can be buried, cables coming down in a storm will happen again, and all the more often on the future.
The only thing people can do to protect themselves is to get personal generators with enough output to boil a kettle and keep the fridge and freezer cold.
ESB aren’t responsible, and the government won’t do a thing for as long as the same two parties keep getting voted in.
I got wet the other day when it rained. Can I get compo please?
Theres always some looking to make an easy few Euro.
ESB been working its bollox off to fix what the storm damaged. And some cute hoor chances are pulling this.
This is why we have insurance
Compensation for a storm? People thought this?
Where do people think the compensation will come from – it will just circulate back into the overall cost of electricity same with the under grounding of cables maybe that’s valid in limited areas. Not like people are happy with the price as is. On the standing charges pso levy I’ll concede that shouldn’t be charged it’s like salt in the wound.
What I would question is our preparedness overall for events like this county councils local Govt seem to think clearing roads is all they should do why did the not have warming centres / hubs with services ready to go. Why do we not have at least isolator switches on key infrastructure so a generator can be plugged in why doesn’t the council have a stock of generators. Why did the ESB not bring overseas crews earlier
And to those of us living in more rural areas it’s a wake up call to think how we could better prepare & sustain ourselves for next time.
u/sharplegopiece post that image again. You know which one I’m talking about.
I would say I can’t believe this thread is defending people in Ireland getting nothing, but tbh that doesn’t even surprise me anymore.
What I have learned from this storm is there is an awful lot of hatred in this country, self hatred, begrudgers, awful horrible people. A lot of it from Dublin and surrounding counties. Meanwhile in Scotland:
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Why should they, unless you can prove some sort of corporate negligence which would be very difficult. They aren’t doing “good will” because ESB Networks doesn’t have domestic customers.
Plus act of god sort of thing
Most major services have service uptime SLAs and compensate for downtime.
Reason why the aren’t compensating is the precident and the potential of them having to fork out in the future.
Can argue both ways whether affected customers would or should be compensated.
If customers want to be compensated… ESB will just go after landowners whos trees fell on the lines…
Surely they don’t have to pay standing charge for the days they were without though? Right?
Of course they won’t be “compensated”, it’s a ridiculous suggestion.
Compensation implies a loss on the part of the customer due to negligence on the part of the service provider.
“Act of God” is a very standard exception clause in virtually every contract on earth. It would be unreasonable to expect a service provider to compensate for breach of contract due to natural calamities outside of their control.
This is where Government is supposed to fill the gap; people should be looking to their local authorities for this compensation on social welfare grounds, not to service providers.
Someone in the tabloid media decided to ask a stupid question and make a big deal out of it, as usual.
The standing charge is roughly around €0.63. If people want a €6 refund that badly then fair enough.
Can ESB be sued for this? Of all the silly suing cultures in Ireland, this should be the one that people do.
But then act of God… (so is falling from luas, in parking lots or any other stupid falls).
Maybe the standing charge for those in one off and dispersed housing should be higher to offset the cost of this poor way of development?
People who have been without power should sue them then.
People can apply to the social welfare for help after the storm. It’s called the humanitarian assistance scheme.
https://www.gov.ie/en/service/12e880-humanitarian-assistance-scheme-swa/
Few things people needs to remember
ESB only owns one of the electrical suppliers so any “compensation” would be to Electric Ireland customers only.
Second compensation is a loaded term. ESB isn’t going to accept fault for a storm.
Some amount of entitlement in this thread. People expecting the esb to compensate over “acts of god” is ridiculous.
https://preview.redd.it/1drsvrves4he1.jpeg?width=480&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2a1977b65abbfa59647f6505c590ee5bd68d3076
Oh they’ll pay
People do realize and he mentioned it in that article that we are going to get charged more next year to pay for the repairs from this storm.
So arguing for a refund is not going to work. You’ll end up paying one way or another
I keep thinking about the 60km that has 150 customers on it. Htf is that sustainable, someone decides to live in ballyarsenowhere but expect the same provision as those living in a town. I don’t know the solution but one off housing is costing us taxpayers big time from school buses to district nurses something has to be done.
People need to take ownership for the choice of where they live. If they want to live in a remote area, like up a mountain or beside a scenic lake, then provide themselves with contingencies like a gas burner, hybrid car or backup generator. If not, live in an urban area. If you want half way house live in town parts of rural area. Above all stop looking for compensation for your location choices.
We are currently living in a rural area which I absolutely love normally. Last few weeks were a pain, but we got on with it.
Having no electricity for at least a week and half now and then getting a big elec bill would be awful
Unless there’s a lot of investment to bury what cables can be buried, cables coming down in a storm will happen again, and all the more often on the future.
The only thing people can do to protect themselves is to get personal generators with enough output to boil a kettle and keep the fridge and freezer cold.
ESB aren’t responsible, and the government won’t do a thing for as long as the same two parties keep getting voted in.
I got wet the other day when it rained. Can I get compo please?
Theres always some looking to make an easy few Euro.
ESB been working its bollox off to fix what the storm damaged. And some cute hoor chances are pulling this.
This is why we have insurance
Compensation for a storm? People thought this?
Where do people think the compensation will come from – it will just circulate back into the overall cost of electricity same with the under grounding of cables maybe that’s valid in limited areas. Not like people are happy with the price as is. On the standing charges pso levy I’ll concede that shouldn’t be charged it’s like salt in the wound.
What I would question is our preparedness overall for events like this county councils local Govt seem to think clearing roads is all they should do why did the not have warming centres / hubs with services ready to go. Why do we not have at least isolator switches on key infrastructure so a generator can be plugged in why doesn’t the council have a stock of generators. Why did the ESB not bring overseas crews earlier
And to those of us living in more rural areas it’s a wake up call to think how we could better prepare & sustain ourselves for next time.
u/sharplegopiece post that image again. You know which one I’m talking about.
I would say I can’t believe this thread is defending people in Ireland getting nothing, but tbh that doesn’t even surprise me anymore.
What I have learned from this storm is there is an awful lot of hatred in this country, self hatred, begrudgers, awful horrible people. A lot of it from Dublin and surrounding counties. Meanwhile in Scotland:
https://preview.redd.it/yo1lzdoea5he1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d5398dde99701a8652a5a0c2f0cd8d7345e5dbab
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