Brazil took down Musk’s X. Now Lula is sharing notes to teach Europe how it’s done.

https://ca.news.yahoo.com/brazil-took-musk-won-now-100000060.html

by eza137

39 comments

  1. Exactly, what actually stops us from doing what lula did?

  3. If only Europe had its own social media platform… I would join in a heartbeat

  4. Lula did not take X down. They (X) were supposed to delete some posts or accounts as determined by judicial order. X refused. The judge then would prosecute and most probably arrest X representatives in Brazil. Musk fired them all in order to protect them. As a last resort, because of these few posts and accounts, X was completely shutdown. Starlink accounts were frozen and ultimately were held responsible for all the fines. I doubt Musk would face Europe the same way he tried here. That wasn’t anyway a political confrontation, but a juridical, rather constitutional one.

    Musk considered himself above a sovereign state.

  6. By freezing and threatening to seize assets of an unrelated company that happened to be partially owned by the same person, i.e.. completely ignoring the rule of law.

    [Attacks on X and Starlink Hurt Legal Certainty, Deter Investment](https://www.gazetadopovo.com.br/republica/x-suspension-and-starlink-account-freeze-undermine-legal-certainty-and-deter-investment-in-brazil/)

    > The decision to block X, along with the freezing of Starlink’s assets—meant to ensure the internet provider pays fines imposed by Justice Alexandre de Moraes on the social media platform—has raised concerns about legal uncertainty in Brazil, according to experts interviewed by Gazeta do Povo.

    > They also warn that both decisions negatively impact foreign investment in the country and harm key sectors of the national economy, including job creation and income generation.

    > …

    > On Sunday, September 1, after X was already blocked in Brazil, American investor Bill Ackman weighed in. The founder of Pershing Square Capital, a hedge fund management firm overseeing $18 billion (R$88.4 billion) in assets, stated that “the illegal shutdown of X and the freezing of Starlink’s accounts are rapidly putting Brazil on a path to becoming uninvestable. China made similar moves, leading to capital flight and collapsing valuations. The same will happen to Brazil unless they quickly reverse these illegal actions.”

  8. Maybe Brazil should take a close look at the EU’s fundamental rights and understand that what may work in a weak democracy (that appears to be pro-Russia) will probably not work in the EU.

  9. Lula did nothing… A Brazilian Supreme Court judge did…

  10. To ban X one needs a solid reason and paper work. To stop using it and switch to another platform one needs … just do it.

    Just imagine: if all officials, politics, banks etc will switch to mastodon, many people will do the same, and X will become less relevant without any bans.

  11. I got downvoted by Democrats on Reddit for even suggesting the Biden admin could have just done that when the platform started replatforming Far Right extremists.

    Downvoters failed. Democrats would have probably won just by shutting down X.

  12. What notes is Lula sharing when it was a matter of Twitter breaking Brazilians laws and a court ordering to block it?

  16. Come on. Let’s ditch twitter-X asap. Notting good in that nazichannel anyways. Hate and fuck you attitude all over the place. Do like Elsa. Let it go!

  17. Thanks Lula da Silva ! Others will follow him soon.

  18. alexandre moraes has gigantic balls and we should learn from him how it’s done

  19. What stops us from doing sinilar website?

    What is so good about twitter? Marketing?
    What ia the difficulty? Safety? Setting up new accounts is too hard for lazy people?

    I will buy domain today and tommorow my IT guys will make website similar to X but better and we all switch and move there. Whats the fucking problem? I hope somebody can explaind what is behind X that nobody else can do?

  20. Also when Meta updated their policy about trans people and DEI the Brazil’s Supreme Court gave them 30 days to explain why, because it’s illegal here.

    They reverted it in less than a week, stating it only applies to the US.

  21. That’s nice and all, but he’s still Putler’s chummy friend and that makes him disgusting.

  24. Any project re. creating European alternatives to American social media should be made in cooperation with Latin America. They speak the languages of two European countries, are the basically the primary target of MAGA techbro imperialism and is a whole continent and a half you can break away from Meta and Elon.

  25. 🤣 yes Europe learn from the Brazillian dictator in the making.

  29. This was well in advance of Trump being president. I remember Paulo Costa ufc fighter complaining about it because he is a top tier twitter shit poster.

    I think there were 10k fines for bypassing restrictions for Brazil.

  30. Can someone from EU parliament read here?

    Do that, tell Elon we don’t like him nor we like X.

    We know what burning books looks like, and is more similar to controlling all the media than banning X.

  32. Only in liberal minds can banning social media and political parties they deem extreme promote democracy. Don’t come up with rational solutions to problems just silence any opposition and victim blame im sure it’ll work this time.

    Its crazy reddit supports Lula solely because he banned X which they think is him standing up to Elon when in reality it silences his political opponents and the average Brazilian with fines.

    If you take a gander at his Wikipedia he recognizes Taiwan as China, Allowed Iranian ships to use their ports, and is on very friendly terms with russia.

  33. We should do the same. And stop buying his stupid cars. Boycott the cunt

  34. Honnestly it’s a bit sad because I only use X for fanarts and stuff, but it’s really great if it can stop or even revert far-right’s grow

  35. X became a sinister weapon, simple as that. Lula got it and decided to do something. This wannabe Adolf is using it big time as we speak. Whoever think it’s still more important to blindly hold ground of rights, freedom of expressing different views unwillingly becomes an accomplice in a way. That fascist freely does what he wants as long as he’s allowed to.

  37. Europe doesn’t need any lessons about authoritarian socialists censoring the media. Been there, done that, it wasn’t popular.

  38. This is the way. Musk is launching a hostile attack on Europe. Respond accordingly n

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