Trump’s Gaza project is one of ethnic cleansing

https://www.lemonde.fr/en/opinion/article/2025/02/05/trump-s-gaza-project-is-one-of-ethnic-cleansing_6737818_23.html

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  1. It’s not happening. It’s just talk to scare Arab countries into helping with the occupation/reconstruction of Gaza using the stick of Palestinian refugees, and to make Hamas compliant. No way the Israelis would be happy with this happening as it would destabilise their ‘peace’ with Egypt and Jordan, truly make them an international pariah and make it harder to defend their southern border from terrorism.

  2. I mean this plan is absolutely insane and shouldn’t be proposed by the president of the United States.

    But this was going to happen eventually. Palestinians have been openly supporting Hamas for many years, and Hamas’ October terrorist attacks against Israel crossed a red line. Palestinians will never stop supporting terrorism, which 100% guarantees they will live in subhuman conditions forever and also guarantees a perpetual state of war in this part of the world. It’s in Israel’s best interests to clear Gaza and destroy this terrorists’ refugee once and for all.

    If Palestinians had chosen democracy and reasonable leadership to negotiate a deal with Israel, we wouldn’t be here. But we are, and people living in Gaza are partially responsible for this, whether people like to admit it or not. Terrorism is never the right answer, and in this case Palestinian terrorism has completely backfired for the people of Gaza.

  3. I think Trump says a lot of things that never come to fruition and then people adamantly opposed to him fall for it every time and lose a lot of credibility doing it.

    If we look at trumps actions, he has only really be consistently attempting to achieve two things: tightened immigrationborder control and reducing the size of the government. Everything else’s has just been a bluff. Even his signature renegotiation of trade deals have mostly been just renaming previous deals lol.

    If people would just calm down and react to his actions, not words, the people opposed to Trump would find greater success in dealing with him. But because every word he says is taken to word with the most extreme reactions, it’s drowning out the real harm he’s doing and turning off moderates who are exhausted hearing from the boy that’s crying wolf.

    The United States public has no appetite to inherit Gaza, not even conservatives, and I’m willing to bet that the threat of taking over Gaza is to help make Hamas come to the table with Israel instead of just goofing around each time Israel and Hamas try and negotiate.

  4. It’s an insane idea, and those who dismiss it as a negotiating tactic are too afraid to engage and actually debate the insane idea. Trump isn’t a master negotiator. We already know this from his first presidency.

  5. How does he come up with crazy ideas like this everyday? It’s not even a full three weeks in his second term and he’s already floated the idea of Mar-a-Gaza? His plan is a bigger ethnic cleansing enterprise than the Khmer Rouge.

  6. I think that it is just his way of bargaining a deal and applying pressure on Hamas and other countries in the Middle East

  7. Tbh it’ll be equally crazy letting gazans live in unhabitable place while Hamas are still in charge, so while people are melting down by trump’ extreme ideas, the same people are not suggesting an reasonable alternatives.
    The main reason the current situation is so messed up is because the reality in Gaza and other places was crazy (in a bad way) in the last 20 years, but the solutions are even crazier.
    Who’s right and who’s wrong? We can’t really know, but some things just can’t stay the way they were, being a terrorist or support them should come with a price.

  8. Let’s assume for a minute it’s a serious proposal. How would he make it work? No one want Palestinians. They’re poor relations and no Arab country wants more of them.

  9. This is genocide and ethnic cleansing but what Israel has been doing since the 40s isn’t? At least be consistent.

    Cleansing the area of Palestinians has always been an Israeli goal, is it really a surprise that he brings up this monumentally stupid idea right as he’s meeting with Israeli leadership? It’s clear the right wing in Israel wants this done. Arab states won’t let this happen, they’re incredibly spineless but this is something no one outside of Israel wants to happen.

  10. Israel has already been [bisecting](https://www.aa.com.tr/en/middle-east/israeli-military-cut-across-gaza-strip-leaving-territory-fragmented/3402300) Gaza into segments for months for greater control and ease of access for military assets. Rhetoric preTrump from [Israeli officials](https://www.timesofisrael.com/us-slams-irresponsible-calls-by-smotrich-and-ben-gvir-for-emigration-of-gazans/amp/) has been similar to that of statements given by [politicians of states pre-ethnic cleansing](https://reliefweb.int/report/myanmar/un-rejects-thein-sein%E2%80%99s-potential-rohingya-plan) and Israeli society seems to be giving Bibi a blank check to do whatever so long as military actions in Gaza are ongoing.

    Seems to be two very likely outcomes for the Gazan people moving forward:

    1) The Israelis bisect Gaza into multiple small districts and lock them down into an “mass detention camp/reservation” similar to what the US Army did to the Lakota in the 1880s and 1890s

    2) The Israelis (with the support of the Trump Admin) mass deport the Gazans in segments to pre-prepared land in either Egypt or Jordan while funneling capital to these nations in return, similar to what the US Army did to the Navajo during the Long Walk in 1864.

    There don’t seem to be any other optimistic alternatives at this point for a conclusion that doesn’t end in massed ethnic violence at the behest of Israeli security goals

  11. Serious question – is the idea provoking terrorist attacks on the US so Trump can then seize more powers to protect it against them?

    I just can’t make sense of why anyone close to Trump outside of Israel would advise him to do this, it is such insanity.

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