Minimum alcohol pricing is clearly not the answer. All it does is punish the poor
>Data from the office for National Statistics, released on Wednesday, found that there were 1,277 deaths from conditions caused by alcohol recorded in 2023.
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>The number recorded in 2023 was 4.2% higher than in 2022 and 38.4% higher than in 2019, the last pre-coronavirus (Covid-19) pandemic year.
The covid rise is substantial. But the subsequent rises shows a slow down hopefully. Seems to be slower rate of rises than E&W.
Need to see these numbers come down though.
Any bets the SNP try and put MUP up even higher?
They are incapable of admitting to failure and so also incapable of learning from it.
I’m telling you guys…. Legalize weed. Much lower social harm. People want to alter their consciousness, we’ve been doing it since we figured out walking….making it more expensive with a harmful disassociate/depressant isn’t going to help. People going to do drugs, give them less harmful cheaper drugs.
Use the tax revenue from weed to fund schools and health initiatives .
Stupid alcoholics
Did anybody consider that MUP on alcohol may have given rise to people resorting to other sources of supply, ie home brew. moonshine etc.
I worked in Iran for a year where alcohol was totally forbidden, but my driver could easily get genuine Smirnoff or Absolute vodka for ＄90 a bottle OR from moonshiners supplied in 5 gallon jerrycans for $40, but he refused to buy the cheap moonshine stuff as it was fire water and ge said he knew of some people were know to go crazy, blind and even die from drinking this firewater.
Shocker. Don’t know how many downvotes people got for pointing this out at the start of minimum pricing. It’s like everything they try has the opposite effect. Like they have absolutely no idea what they are doing.
Because all they do is put the price up and think it’ll sort itself out!!
It’s not patriotic to question the SNP so they get away with slapping MUP on the poor and claiming they’re helping
I’d say minimum pricing is working. Young people are less likely to consume alcohol, which is a long term solution to changing Scotland drinking culture. It’s the older population who normalise a bottle of wine after work and carry on binge drinking into their 30’s and 40’s who are the statistics.
A lot more than cannabis related deaths
I do find the amount of social media making binge drinking and near-alcoholism seem normal has gone way up since covid.
What are possible solutions to this?
What can be done to reduce this statistic. I don’t think increasing taxes further will work.
Why is it happening?
There should be consideration given to applying a minimum cost per unit, to deter people from buying and also provide additional funding for NHS to treat alcohol related illnesses
I guess some people have nothing else.
Some people WANT to drink themselves to death.
I had an old neighbour whose only daughter died in tragic circumstances. I heard, a number of years after I moved away, that she had drank herself to death (over a number of months) due to losing her daughter.
Now. Is that a fault of alcohol prices – or shoddy support networks?
A lot of folk responding with legalise weed. Im pro-weed but we need to be honest about this country’s substance abuse issues.
Alcohol deaths will decline with a certain generation. They’re still hitting it hard and still numerous so I wouldn’t expect much change for a while.
Minimum Pricing doing it’s job then?
A poor culture of drinking, emphasised by the lack of suitable support, has created the perfect storm for this.
I don’t see MUP in its current form as the solution. If the MUP was a tax that contributed to the funding of such rehabilitation and education, it would be a bit more conducive to tackling the issue.
As for political points scoring this alongside drug deaths, we need to remember that these are real people, not just numbers. It’s incumbent on all political parties to do their best to solve this problem
If if wasn’t for MUP, we’d All be deed!
Look at the proof, NE England had slightly more.
Are they also testing for drugs, in particular street Valium, which people are moving to in their droves?
Because no one has any money, social services are fucked, there is no community, and people have nothing else!
Within 5 years the figures will drop dramatically. No one hardly goes out now and youngsters don’t even drink. This is just the old jakies popping their clogs
Nonsense, minimum unit pricing was meant to reduce alcohol deaths.
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Minimum alcohol pricing is clearly not the answer. All it does is punish the poor
>Data from the office for National Statistics, released on Wednesday, found that there were 1,277 deaths from conditions caused by alcohol recorded in 2023.
…
>The number recorded in 2023 was 4.2% higher than in 2022 and 38.4% higher than in 2019, the last pre-coronavirus (Covid-19) pandemic year.
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The covid rise is substantial. But the subsequent rises shows a slow down hopefully. Seems to be slower rate of rises than E&W.
Need to see these numbers come down though.
Any bets the SNP try and put MUP up even higher?
They are incapable of admitting to failure and so also incapable of learning from it.
I’m telling you guys…. Legalize weed. Much lower social harm. People want to alter their consciousness, we’ve been doing it since we figured out walking….making it more expensive with a harmful disassociate/depressant isn’t going to help. People going to do drugs, give them less harmful cheaper drugs.
Use the tax revenue from weed to fund schools and health initiatives .
Stupid alcoholics
Did anybody consider that MUP on alcohol may have given rise to people resorting to other sources of supply, ie home brew. moonshine etc.
I worked in Iran for a year where alcohol was totally forbidden, but my driver could easily get genuine Smirnoff or Absolute vodka for ＄90 a bottle OR from moonshiners supplied in 5 gallon jerrycans for $40, but he refused to buy the cheap moonshine stuff as it was fire water and ge said he knew of some people were know to go crazy, blind and even die from drinking this firewater.
Shocker. Don’t know how many downvotes people got for pointing this out at the start of minimum pricing. It’s like everything they try has the opposite effect. Like they have absolutely no idea what they are doing.
Because all they do is put the price up and think it’ll sort itself out!!
It’s not patriotic to question the SNP so they get away with slapping MUP on the poor and claiming they’re helping
I’d say minimum pricing is working. Young people are less likely to consume alcohol, which is a long term solution to changing Scotland drinking culture. It’s the older population who normalise a bottle of wine after work and carry on binge drinking into their 30’s and 40’s who are the statistics.
A lot more than cannabis related deaths
I do find the amount of social media making binge drinking and near-alcoholism seem normal has gone way up since covid.
What are possible solutions to this?
What can be done to reduce this statistic. I don’t think increasing taxes further will work.
Why is it happening?
There should be consideration given to applying a minimum cost per unit, to deter people from buying and also provide additional funding for NHS to treat alcohol related illnesses
I guess some people have nothing else.
Some people WANT to drink themselves to death.
I had an old neighbour whose only daughter died in tragic circumstances. I heard, a number of years after I moved away, that she had drank herself to death (over a number of months) due to losing her daughter.
Now. Is that a fault of alcohol prices – or shoddy support networks?
A lot of folk responding with legalise weed. Im pro-weed but we need to be honest about this country’s substance abuse issues.
Alcohol deaths will decline with a certain generation. They’re still hitting it hard and still numerous so I wouldn’t expect much change for a while.
Minimum Pricing doing it’s job then?
A poor culture of drinking, emphasised by the lack of suitable support, has created the perfect storm for this.
I don’t see MUP in its current form as the solution. If the MUP was a tax that contributed to the funding of such rehabilitation and education, it would be a bit more conducive to tackling the issue.
As for political points scoring this alongside drug deaths, we need to remember that these are real people, not just numbers. It’s incumbent on all political parties to do their best to solve this problem
If if wasn’t for MUP, we’d All be deed!
Look at the proof, NE England had slightly more.
Are they also testing for drugs, in particular street Valium, which people are moving to in their droves?
Because no one has any money, social services are fucked, there is no community, and people have nothing else!
Within 5 years the figures will drop dramatically. No one hardly goes out now and youngsters don’t even drink. This is just the old jakies popping their clogs
Nonsense, minimum unit pricing was meant to reduce alcohol deaths.
But but public health approach 😂😂😂😂
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