“What’s the point of having Congress?”: Even some conservatives now say it’s a constitutional crisis

https://www.salon.com/2025/02/05/whats-the-point-of-having-congress-even-conservatives-worry-about-musks-illegal/

48 comments
  1. They were warned this would happen. What the fuck were they thinking? What the fuck were any of you enablers thinking would happen?

  2. Musk needs to be physically apprehended at this point. If he’s breaking the law, then he needs to be arrested, no bail.

  3. Ok, so do something. Clearly it’s becoming a fucking issue.

    And this is good: the more conservatives who agree with this, the better chance of an impeachment that can pass.

  4. Hey, conservatives?

    This is what you voted for.

    Pay attention, turn off fox news, stop reading the tabloids, and cast aside this 11th commandment loyalty to the GOP.

    It’s that simple.

    Tell Republicans they’re wrong when they’re wrong

  5. If there is no check an balance in the democracy, declare president a king.

  6. Why isn’t literally every democratic senator and congressman on every news channel right now losing their mind about this constitutional crisis? What the af are they doing right now? They have no visibility.

  7. It’s a mess but it’s not over yet. This land is my land, this land is your land. This land was made for you and me.

  8. “Another senior Republican, Sen. Thom Tillis, R- N.C., acknowledged that Musk and Trump’s actions were unconstitutional but said that “nobody should bellyache about that.” ”

    You’ve got to be kidding me 😨

  9. If Musk fucks up his own coup, that’s gonna be fucking hilarious.

  10. Are there any Republican politicians that have been outspoken or taken to social media to condemn Elon? I haven’t seen any.

  11. OMB is the only data that mattered and it was overtaken. All the secrets in every classified applicants’ file, including polygraph results. Members of Congress and the Senate are in this files.

    Any politician who ever cheated or did anything ethically dubious is in those files to blackmail.

    He now has blackmail information on anyone in America, to threaten them directly or someone they care about.

    The game is already lost.

  12. Trump is going to try to consolidate the exec branch, take control of the Treasury to raise the debt ceiling and fund certain programs and just pump out exec orders, thus making Congress pointless.

  13. Greed. Power. Control. Money. America.Put it in whatever order you want, you know which one will always be last for a Republican.

  14. They only work like twelve days a year and Bernie’s literally nonstop talking about this shit and they still are all caught with their pants down. This is fucking heinous.

  15. >“Impoundment has become popular in Republican circles **because they have not been able to successfully pass their ideas democratically**,” Riedl said. “What they can’t do democratically they are now trying to do via illegal executive fiat and do an end run around Congress.”

  16. Lol, I just contacted my maga congress critters saying they have no point since they have given up their power of oversight and the purse. If this is how this is going what’s their point?

  17. There is no point. They wanted Trump to have the power of the unitary executive, so congrats Congress, you’re now the Duma.

  18. Cutting the Federal workforce? Start with Nancy Mace.

  19. We need to protect Congress. Not doing so would constitute a constitutional crisis.

  20. I remember when conservatives were all about the constitution. That type of conservative has been vanishing since the patriot act.

  21. Eliminating Congress is a particular method of implementing a coup by the Executive. Peru in 1992 comes to mind.

  22. They’re too busy jerking off to the ICE raids.
    Pure schadenfreude.
    Disgusting.

  23. A few of you could vote with the Democrats to block his nominees and legislation until he gives Congress actual answers, and hold a subpoena vote again. Otherwise Elon could drain Medicare into his Sovereign Wealth Fund to illegally buy and “own” Gaza with tomorrow and we would be none the wiser.

    Tie the government shutdown to blocking special government employees from having admin/root access to Treasury servers, to restoring USAID and Department of Education, to prove that Elon didn’t steal any money, to any number of things. Until then, slow everything down in Congress.

  24. It’s redundant, but call your reps. Red states, call them. Flood their phones, protest outside their office buildings. Make their life miserable. It matters. Use 5calls.org

  25. Yet these spineless twits will still do nothing about it… 

  26. It’s going to take generations of reprogramming and denazifacation to get out of this.

    But it’s starting to look and feel like that window is closed

  27. Trump only has power because elected conservatives give it to him.

    Do your damn jobs ans impeach him

  28. Wrote my rep today asking him why Elon is allowed to be doing this and why congress is abdicating their responsibility. He’s a pro J6 maga nut though so it’s probably going into the trash.

  29. When it gets down to it.. Congress really only has one superpower. Control of the purse. And it’s the one power that both parties steadfastly and absolutely positively refuse to wield. It’s the strangest thing.

  30. as long as they keep publically repeating the line that “the president has the right to [fill in the blank]” things won’t change. 

  31. >“We haven’t had a president refuse to obey a Supreme Court order, Painter aid. But if this keeps going on a president is going to say ‘What’s all this Marbury v. Madison business and judicial review?’ At the end of the day, there’s only one branch with control of an army and that’s the executive branch and the president.”

    saying the quiet part out loud. they will start to ignore scotus orders if they loose in court and thats with a court willing tobend over backwards for him

  32. The correct question is what do we do with the way Congress functions when they stop representing their human constituents.

  33. “Some.”

    Nothing is changing. It’ll be a constitutional crisis until the GOP is voted out and I’m not confident they will ever lose power through voting.

    We’re done.

  34. Why would any GOP donor donate to a GOP Congressional candidate ever again when in-effect their role has been absorbed by the Presidency? They’re shooting themselves in the foot.

  35. ”…some conservative **scholars** say the South African billionaire is creating a constitutional crisis,”

    But not *”the vast majority of elected Republicans [who] are in lockstep support of Elon Musk’s attack on government agencies,”* which is the only political body capable of stopping him or holding Musk accountable. Which apparently none of them are willing or going to do. Musk could’ve paid all 50 odd of them $10 million apiece and still only expended .0001% of his wealth.

    If this is Putin’s playbook, I can’t wait until the Trumpian underlings and his minions tax him at 50% of his assets or imprison him to seize his assets.

  36. I basically just said the same thing in an email to my republican congressman. Something along the lines of don’t you care that Trump and Musk are taking your job? If they do your job, why should we bother having elections for you?

  37. Remember when conservatives and “independents” were saying he wouldn’t abuse power? Bet y’all feel real silly now.

    Just kidding, people are incapable of admitting they’re incorrect.

  38. Yeah conservatives are going to wait till the last minute to get on the train and wonder how it got so bad so quick. When “We the People” have been fighting the onslaught this whole time.

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