Labour takes the fight to Reform — with migrant deportation videos

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1. It’s difficult cause labour need to campaign on this stuff, but if you’re the kind of person who will be won over by this, would you not think well I’m still going to vote for the party that wants to do it even more? It always seemed like the catch 22 of parties on the left appealing to the centre/right, but what do I know maybe it will be just what they need

2. Despite what the many, many bad faith actors (and bots) on Reddit will tell you, moving towards doing what the far right want is not ‘taking the fight’ to them and has never worked once. 

   This exact kind of bullshit is what led to us detonating our own economy, reputation and many of our own freedoms with Brexit: to fight off UKIP. It’s been a disaster and you know who isn’t feeling any of the consequences of that? Nigel Farage.

   I’m not saying that the current immigration situation is good or balanced or sustainable, but if you truly want to fight the far right you need to come up with your own solutions and then justify them. Not accept they won the argument but that you’re just a better party to execute the plan.

3. How stupid are Labour’s Comms team? You’re never going to win a who hates the foreigners most contest with reform.

   Why not point out that every single problem in the country isn’t because foreign people exist.

4. In the next video you will find them all returning within 7 days

5. Too little too late, it’s been theirs and the conservatives policy for the last 30 years to bring in immigrants to bring down wages and the standard of living for the working and middle class so that the rich can get richer.

   Now they’re pretending to care about something they have ignored for decades? Get to fuck. Nobody really wants to vote for Reform but the Conservatives and Labour have made it necessary by continually ignoring the will of the electorate unfortunately.

6. Ah yes, some exquisite videos of brown men being taken from RNLI lifeboats straight back to France, this will definitely win over voters, and it isn’t like Keir starmers first month as prime minister saw more arrivals than the entire first 6 months of 2024. Honestly, I think this is fake and staged, Keir starmer is going to fucking die by 2029, labour will most likely never have more than 20 seats after this.

7. This is going to be a long path that will end up with labour being very anti immigrant. Just like Brexit referendum you don’t need to be in power to radically effect the ruling government policy if the threat of future election defeat is on the table.

   Unlike the tories in 2016 the pressure labour face against reform is considerably larger.

8. This comment section is very confused between migrants, illegal migrants and refugees. Then again so is most the country after the media worked so hard to blur them into one.

9. I echo the commenters who struggle to see how Starmer can win on this issue.

   The problem is that few of people’s grievances have much to do with current immigration policy.

   Setting aside the people whose primary desire is for a 99% White population (they will always vote for the most reactionary right-wing party and are not people Labour should court), the average anti-immigration voter is someone who, rightly or wrongly, feels that a growing portion of the population holds values that conflict with theirs, fails to respect the customs many Brits want to uphold, and shows little gratitude towards their new home.

   How upset people are about this has much more to do with isolated negative experiences they may have with immigrants and with the incidents the media choose to cover, than with any changes in the amount of immigration.

   We also just need to let Sunak’s tightening of work visas filter through. With the almost £40K salary threshold, foreign graduates are now realistically not staying unless they work in professional services or tech, increasingly only in London. The coalition focused on kicking these particular people out is not large enough to win any elections. However Starmer can’t take credit for this, of course.

10. There is only so many Brazilian deliveroo drivers Keir can get rid of before they run out of videos.

    I think the public are concerned about an entirely different demographic that can’t easily be deported.

11. You don’t fight your opponent by doing exactly (or the same but slower) what they were going to do anyway. You fight them by demonstrating you have a different and hopefully better way of doing things.

12. This is not a great move. The people who really care about videos like this will not be voting Labour anyway

13. To accomplish this he is going to make a enemies of many Industries.

    You will see many of the right wing press go after him because they are ultimately backed the same businesses that rely on cheap labour.

    You remove a significate percentage of immigrates and the number of people who are prepared to do low skilled low paid jobs becomes a massive problem.

    Of course people will argue that this will just push wages up and that is a good thing until they start to complain why prices across the board have increased significantly.

    Businesses are not just going to absorb the cost of increasing wages, they will pass them along to the public.

    The care sector which is already in the midst of severe staff shortage will collapse without immigrates. You want more people in the care sector, your going have to pay for it which means substantial increases in council tax.

    You can’t just turn back 30 years of building your economic base on migrates over night.

    It will takes years and its going to be very painful.

    I genuinely believe that the once the pain starts to kick in the British Public at large will not have the stomach for it.

    Saying you going to cut Immigration is very easy but actually doing it.. It’s why Farage never answers the question when he is asked how would he do it.

14. Stopping the chagos and slavery repatriation nonsense will be far more helpful than deportation PR videos.

    If any it will only invite people examining what they have achieved on stopping migrants coming and realizing that the number is only increasing.

15. It’s not a nice thing , but not nice times we’re living in. I was wondering when they would show what they were actually doing. Even the Daily Mail can’t deny this. Oh I know they will come up with some crap.

16. I wonder how many bus routes that ad campaign cost?

17. Looking on the comments here looks like all of you are blaming everything on imigrants.You should look at yourself,your family and friends.You ll find plenty that should go to work but they.re too lazy to do it.But yes..say that the british people are better than imigrants because they will not accept lower pay and choose to live on benefits while waiting for those higher wages to just happen(even if imigrants are always going to be payed atleast the minimum wage).Of course is easier to blame them for everything rather than admitting your faults.

    When it comes to labour..of course this is stupid.Can.t fight racists on this as this thread proves.They should concentrate on the 49 percents that wanted in EU(which now is much more than 49 percents).They should show the lack of benefits from brexit and get behind all the people that supported being in the EU.If you capitalise on those people and get them all to vote you than you.ll have much more guaranteed votes than if you go and fight with reform and tories for the racist vote.

    But what do I know..I am just an imigrant that payed 2000+ £ a month in taxes for the last 10 years.Of course the brits blaming me for their laziness know more than myself.

18. Just another 4.5 million and we’ll get back to 2019 levels! Keep it up Starmer and you might just earn our vote! Sending luv and support from Barnsley x x

19. Impossible to out right the right, massive majority, stop worrying about them, do some good for the next 4 years then win bk votes that way.

20. Its the light speed scenario, the more people you let in, the more resources are needed, so the more people you need to let in……

    What is actually required is to limit entry, and make lower skilled jobs more attractive by making ‘big businesses’ (The one making Billions and paying peanuts, but apparently, really need these extra people because no one else is willing to work for nowt) stump up a decent wage.

    (Edited because fat thumbs)

21. This strategy won’t work. You will never sway reform voters through this kind of appeasement. It simply validates their position to vote Reform.

22. God, I’ve never regretted voting for than clown starmer more.

23. This is stupid. People who are cultists about immigration aren’t going to be persuaded but it’ll be easier to persuade your base that you’re a pack of useless Tories and they may as well tune out

24. The best way to reduce immigration is to invest in young people. Make higher education cheap or free, set up a national trade service where people can learn various trades.

    Provide more funds and resources to the immigration services to thoroughly and swiftly process claims so there’s no backlog costing millions in housing and necessities for claimants.

    This will cost in the short term, and take a while, but would be hugely beneficial long term. There is no quick fix, things like this take time and money.

25. With labour focused on deportations and banning gender affirming care, they might as well just rename themselves to Tories 2.

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