Unbelievable footage. If you haven’t seen it yet, go and watch it now.
Shooting non combatants is another war crime to add to the list.
As discussed elsewhere, is there any evidence at all that it was Russians shooting at them? Disturbing that this is being reported as fact, no sense of uncertainty at all, that it was.
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Edit: downvotes, yet no replies of substance. i suspect that’s because my question cannot be answered satisfactorily, yet it going unanswered it has a possible implication that people don’t like. People are less interested in truth and difficult questions, and more interested in narratives that support their side, without regard to truth value of those narratives.
the question is reasonable. you cannot dimiss me as some sort of russia apologist. i have a significant post history calling for regime change in russia (going way back before the invasion), condemning the invasion itself, support of greater western intervention even at the possible risk of nuclear war, and arguing against notions that Ukraine should make additional efforts, potentially diluting military effectiveness, to avoid killing Russian soldiers. Despite my firm anti-Russia view, on appraisal of the actual evidence, it remains far from clear that there is any evidence that the attack was from Russians rather than a spooked Ukranian checkpoint having fucked up, as the crew themselves initially thought it was. see my other comment for explorations of the complexity around this incident.
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Unbelievable footage. If you haven’t seen it yet, go and watch it now.
Shooting non combatants is another war crime to add to the list.
As discussed elsewhere, is there any evidence at all that it was Russians shooting at them? Disturbing that this is being reported as fact, no sense of uncertainty at all, that it was.
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Edit: downvotes, yet no replies of substance. i suspect that’s because my question cannot be answered satisfactorily, yet it going unanswered it has a possible implication that people don’t like. People are less interested in truth and difficult questions, and more interested in narratives that support their side, without regard to truth value of those narratives.
the question is reasonable. you cannot dimiss me as some sort of russia apologist. i have a significant post history calling for regime change in russia (going way back before the invasion), condemning the invasion itself, support of greater western intervention even at the possible risk of nuclear war, and arguing against notions that Ukraine should make additional efforts, potentially diluting military effectiveness, to avoid killing Russian soldiers. Despite my firm anti-Russia view, on appraisal of the actual evidence, it remains far from clear that there is any evidence that the attack was from Russians rather than a spooked Ukranian checkpoint having fucked up, as the crew themselves initially thought it was. see my other comment for explorations of the complexity around this incident.