Nigel Farage is the biggest reason voters would not back Reform, new poll suggests

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1. These polls are getting silly, they all contradict each other

2. So people are saying they’d vote for Farage’s latest personality cult if he wasn’t in charge of it?

   How does that work?

3. “I’d love to vote for the hypocritical, racist party of authoritarianism, backed by a foreign billionaire but I’m just not a fan of the hypocritical, racist authoritarian, backed by a foreign billionaire.”

4. And none of it matters because 4 years is a long time in politics as we’ve seen with the last government.

   It could be more of the same from Labour or it could be that they’re laying the ground work for a second term which is what they want.

   All they have to do to win is show results 6 months before the next election and not get dragged into the mud.

5. Farage is a spent force.

   Rupert Lowe is the one to watch.

6. Farage is a grifter. For all intents and purposes, he’s the same as those fat football watchers who see a person miss a penalty and says “oh c’mon even i cud’ve done betta”.

   He spouts shit and is more than happy to demonise everything and anyone and how bad everything is. But the moment he gets into power, he’s useless. Why? Because he’s got no substance.

7. If their most visible representative is their biggest turn-off to voters, Reform are in trouble, because if the quality of their candidates in the last election is anything to go by, their less visible representatives are even more of a car crash.

   If Farage steps aside for the good of the party (ha ha ha ha ha) then the public will have to either get acquainted with the swivel-eyed weirdos running on a Reform ticket, or get reacquainted with the Tory cast-offs whose brain worms got too big for them to progress in the main party.

8. LOL without Farage Reform were getting less than 5% of the votes in local elections. He is the Reform party.

9. Why do these posts about reform keep popping up it seems like every other one at the moment ?

10. Rupert Lowe should be leader. Talks a lot of sense

    Here we go guys, the downvote arrow is here ⬇️

11. >Adam Drummond, head of political and social research at Opinium, commented: “Voters generally know about three things about Reform: it’s a party led by Nigel Farage, they don’t like immigration, and they aren’t the Labour or Conservative parties.

    I don’t think you can say that “they don’t like immigration” as according to Farage their policy (net-zero migration) is still set to have around 5-600k inwards a year – more that they don’t like current immigration policy rather than immigration as a concept going by those numbers.

12. Really? I thought the exact opposite was the case. That people support Reform largely because of Nigel

13. I wouldn’t say he’s the number one reason for me. But he’s certainly on the list, which is very long, and on which every bullet point is every single thing they stand for.

14. I would not trust a lot of articles regarding this, Musk want Farage out so he can install a leader who will do everything he wants.…

    If the leader changes a lot of normal people will see through this and move away to another party or not bother voting for anyone

15. The right are fickle and will do whatever musk tells them. 

16. If they aren’t voting for Farage what are they voting for then? A load of bigoted wife beaters?

17. Not every Reform voter is a racist, but every Racist voted for Reform.

    If your on the same side as racists then your on the wrong side.

18. But according to people on this sub they’re going to win a majority in 2024 and Farage will be PM.

19. The people who vote for reform BECAUSE of Nigel Farage are far greater than the people whose “biggest reason” not to vote for them is Farage but they wouldn’t actually vote for Reform regardless because there are a dozen other reasons not to vote for them.

    A weird way to try to suggest Reform would be better without the only person from Reform that anyone knows about.

    Remember UKIP? Every time he stood down as leader they disappeared into obscurity.

20. Get Rupert Lowe in and reform will trounce labour next GE

21. Respondents who said they would *not* vote Reform most commonly cited Farage as the main reason.

    In itself this is not particularly useful information. You’d also need to poll people who *would* vote reform to understand if Farage is the main reason for their support. Then you can see if he is a net help or hinderence to the party.

22. This **monkey** hates Europe and continues to receive the EU pension, paid by all of us Europeans!

23. I’m not shocked. I reckon Farage with Reform has a similar effect to Corbyn with Labour. No matter how many voters he brings in, he turns more people off the party.

24. The thing with Reform is I can understand thinking Immigration is too high and that governments aren’t taking illegal immigration seriously. That’s an ok stance to have and I think it is not healthy to label that as an unacceptable stance as that pushes people further right.

    My concern is that so many of their policies are based on riling people up, they aren’t costed, they aren’t backed up by economists, they are just a list of populist fluff.

    It’s a good thing we had Liz Truss as PM because that gives you a flavour for what Reform would be like.

    If Nigel went away and they tidied up their senseless policies they could very well make a good opposition. But I really fear they are gunna try and copy Trumps success, but hopefully the next 4 years of US economic chaos will be enough to deter people…

25. I find these polls confusing. One moment he’s really popular, the next he isn’t? Are they saying that they agree with the Muskrat?

26. He’s created a monster he can’t control,imagine how right wing you have to be for Farage not be to right wing enough.I think a lot of this has to do with him not wanting Tommy Robinson to have anything to do with the party

27. I can believe it. I maintain that Boris Johnson is the biggest reason Leave won in 2016, because him being there meant that Farage didn’t have to be the face of the campaign.

28. That’s scary, so if they install a different Nazi they’ll all vote for him?

29. I literally pay zero attention to anything reform do, they alligned themselves with this twat who helped orchestrate brexit then vanished into thin air letting the country crumble, he should not even be in politics and I will never support anything he’s even vaguely touched

30. It’s simple. The people want a stop to immigration. Other parties aren’t addressing the issue so people are willing to put up with someone they don’t like to get the job done.

    All of you who simply go ‘hurr durr bunch of ignorant racists’ are simply adding to the problem by not engaging with the issue. 

31. He’s too moderate for most reform voters I think. They want someone even more extreme.

32. Ben Habib or Rupert Lowe are much better choices. Losing Ben Habib was a massive blow to reform. I don’t trust Farage, but I’m still going to vote for Reform as long as Rupert Lowe is still flying their flag.

33. Farage may be an evil prick, but he is at least a familiar face and you basically know where he stands. The rest of them are either Tice (wealthy Oswald Mosley types) or the parliamentary candidate from the election who was surprised to see foreigners at the airport (BNP with branding).

34. Every politician and party has a push pull factor. Just ask Corbyn fans how that works.

    Farage might bring x % of the electorate to the party. But he repels y %. The Never Nigels.

    You take away Nigel and I think most generous Reform party members would agree you throw away any chance of a real electoral breakthrough. Just ask Phil Nuttal of the UKIPs how post Farage political projects go.

35. I’d never vote Reform, but Farage is still the biggest reason I wouldn’t vote Reform

36. Now Labour view reform as a genuine electoral threat, the tone of the conversation has changed. We’ve evolved from being condescending and dismissive into screeching either racists, fascists or bigots at every opportunity and just hoping their supporters just go away.

    This counter strategy would not exactly fill me with confidence, if I didn’t want reform to keep growing.

37. Reform’s support isn’t due to agreement with his platform.

    It’s painfully obvious that it’s a one-issue vote: reducing immigration. It’s the same reason why Brexit was supported: to reduce immigration.

    When you reduce the discussion of immigration levels to racism and xenophobia, and have two major parties that have done nil on the matter, people will turn to alternatives.

38. Just they wait until they find out about Richard runaway-somewhere-nice Tice

39. Paradoxically, he’s also the biggest reason why people DO vote for them.

40. Kier Starmer is the biggest reason people won’t back Labour

41. This is what reddit said about Boris Johnson.

    Immediately before he won by a landslide…

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