Russia could start a major war in Europe within 5 years, Danish intelligence warns

https://www.politico.eu/article/russia-war-threat-europe-within-5-years-danish-intelligence-ddis-warns/

by hashing_nonces

48 comments

  1. But .. I just read they now need donkeys to bring ammunition to the front. How come?

    They obviously took a lot of damage economy wise, relations wise, and I thought a war economy was hard to handle even without an already super expensive ongoing war

  2. And will start. You will see like right after potential peace deal with Ukraine, all those russian marionettes will start crying about sanctions that should be lifted. In this way russian will accamulate resources again and that time they will hit a smaller countries than Ukraine. Baltic or maybe Finland. USA won’t be care about it, and Europe will be still talking about how it should rise the military spends on next 0,3% of GDP.

  3. > If Moscow perceives NATO as weak

    But they don’t. Russia doesn’t want to just start a major war with a NATO country.

  4. Poland and Germany need nukes, so does Ukraine by the way.

  5. Russia is already in a major war with Europe. Ukraine is just the current front line.

  6. I love how, on the one hand, Russia hasn’t been able to progress in the war against completely exhausted (army-wise speaking) Ukraine, but it’s supposedly ready to fight against the EU, which has 15 times larger professional army than Ukraine did when Russia attacked it, without even talking about the amount of generation of equipment. It’s absolute nonsense, a much more likely scenario is that Russia will use the EU x USA relationships weakening to improve its own relationships with Europe

  7. Putin can be overthrown too, unleash incessant virulent propaganda on him and watch the regime burn to the ground. Fire with fire.

  8. They can’t even get past the dnipro river. What makes idiot think he can take on all of the EU especially since France has Nukes

  11. Maybe a big bad enemy is what Europe needs to finally make an actual union

  14. Big surprise.It will unless it is kicked between legs by the civilized world.WWII lesson learned, I hope.It is clear that pootin and his ruzzia are the new fascist state.

  15. What do you mean “could” they’re already in a major war with a European country

  16. Lets save you a click

    The time horizons assume that the USA don’t get involved and that NATO does not rearm at the same pace as Russia. If that don’t happen then the scennario is:

    – In about six months, Russia “will be able to fight a local war in a country bordering Russia”.
    – In about two years, Russia will “pose a credible threat to individual or several NATO countries and thus be ready for a regional war against several countries in the Baltic Sea region”.
    – In about five years, Russia “will be ready for a large-scale war on the European continent in which the United States does not get involved”.

    In other words it “just happen” to fit in the agenda the Danish goverment have and is “benneficial” 1½ year before the next election

  17. Lamo they been struggleing against ukraine for the last few years
    Now they wanna take over europe
    Putin couldnt take over a rock even if he wasnt opposed

  18. Not sure what Putin will use as an army unless he starts drafting 10 year olds. They’ve squandered the majority of their armour and experienced crews; the air force is bare bones and the Black sea fleet virtually extinct.
    If he starts making nuke threats again – well, they’re most likely to blow up on launch or over Russian territory. They are practically on their knees against Ukraine. Even without the US, I don’t fancy their chances against NATO.

  19. They won’t attack EU next.

    Georgia is right up on the platter, they’ve essentially conquered themselves already.

    Then it will be the ’stans. My money is on Kazakstan first – big, resource rich country with a crap military.

    Only thing that can stop them from doing it is if Ukraine will be in a position to take back what they will inevitably lose from this war.

  21. The war against Europe will require 5-7 million people from Russia. It doesn’t have that kind of strength.

  22. Schroedingers Russia. Close to collapse and running out of funds for their army while also about to invade the rest of Europe.

  23. Underestimating the enemy is never a good thing to do.

    Yes Russia is struggling in Ukraine, but there are other things to consider. First, they almost won their initial bet (immediately taking Kyiv), they underestimated the Ukrainians’ will (Hostomel) and intimate knowledge of Russian tactics. By comparison, when they look more to the West they see no will and less knowledge of their tactics. Which isn’t wrong. Secondly, they gained plenty of experience now, and won’t repeat their blatant mistakes. Third, we never called their bluff (and we should have) so expect them to use the “nuclear threat card” again. Especially in an environment where Trump is POTUS.

    They don’t expect to launch a new trench war. In the same way Germany before WW2 didn’t expect to launch a new trench war. Nobody out there is a moron, especially not military strategists. Some allied countries back then expected it to be “trench war bis”, yes, and they had a really bad surprise in 1939-1940. It’s the same here: don’t expect Russia to make the same mistake twice, when they’ll go for the Baltics it will be totally different than Ukraine 2022. Never understimate the enemy, even less an experienced and hardened one, donkeys or not.

    It will be the great test for the EU. Victory or disintegration. In order to be ready a first step is not to underestimate the enemy

  24. Russia already is at war with the west. Currently not with bombs and bullets but with propagana. Spreading lies. Spreading hate. Promoting fascism. And they are winning. The western public is stupid and gullible as are its politicians.
    If Russia could start a war it will be on the moment they have to do little actual fighting because they already won. Europe needs to act, now, and stop that bullshit and defend democracy and rule-of-law.

  25. The Danes must be supported against Putin and against Trump/USA

  26. With what army? And what weapons? They are a joke.

  27. Russia already started a war with Europe but we mostly just let it happen…sadly

  28. Russian here.

    I don’t think people have actually read the report. It speaks of certain conditions when this could happen:

    >Russia is likely to be more willing to use military force in a regional war against one or more European NATO countries if it perceives NATO as militarily weakened or politically divided. This is particularly true if Russia assesses that the U.S. cannot or will not support the European NATO countries in a war with Russia.

    So imagine the scenario where the US pulls out of NATO, and Le Penn and Reform come to power in France/UK respectively, and promise Russia not to get involved in a war. At that point, the EU (and possibly NATO, depending on who is still a member of it) is left without nuclear weapons.

    At the same time another thing is guaranteed to happen – whenever the war in Ukraine happens, Russia will be left with a large and well-trained army and with re-launched military production. By its sheer existence, it raises the probability that the military will be utilized elsewhere.

    Given these two factors and the hostile attitude between Russia and the Baltic states (for example), that could easily escalate into a war with these conditions.

  29. Have IQ’s dropped sharply? When has Russia *not* attempted war in Europe? 

    * Ratchovsky – Russian agent that helped forge the protocols of the learned elders of Zion leading to the rise of the likes of Hitler

    * The black hand – Nazi skull and bones emblem and assassinated Arch duke Franz Ferdinand, which was a catalyst for war

    * WW2 – Stalin was perfectly happy to support Hitler, up until he started killing the Jews en masse

    * Ukraine war – obvs

    Let’s face it. Russia’s leadership is a boil that needs to be lanced once and for all. Their motto is *might is right*. Unless it’s their leaders that have to endure it. Don’t get this twisted, I feel no ill will towards the Russian people themselves. They’re people like you and me, but their leadership needs a serious fucking clear out. As do their oligarchs.

  31. They can have hungary, they dont need a war for this. Orban can be united with his buddy and everyone still belives his shit experience what the consequences are.

    Sorry for the people against him, its the same with russia/putin, turkey/erdogan or the US/trump. Millions suffer because few people get more money they are never able to spend.

  32. They wish, but can they? Tell me how, when Russia is not even capable of eliminating Ukraine army?

  34. I mean, Putin is 72. Trump is 78. Xi Jinpin is also in his 70s

    Do these old scumbags really want to set the world on fire?

    Why don’t they just calm the fuck down.

  35. The German government already issued, I believe, the same exact warning recently.

  36. How are they gonna start another one when they’re bogged down in Ukraine?

    Sure, most European nations ain’t got shit to fight the ruskies with, but Ivan has lost most of his stuff as well

  37. With what army ? They are already struggling against an arguably pretty weak opponent compared to richer european countries

  39. Russia is losing in Ukraine. Don’t think them attacking Europe would end well.

  40. I call bullshit, but we should strengthen anyway. The US will come, but we shouldn’t rely on them.

  42. Putin will be dead in 5/10 years.

    I guess we need to see who replaces him but we should be preparing now encase it’s someone just as bad.

  43. Literally the first word of the article is “If”

  44. Putin has terminal cancer so this is his endgame because his miserable cunt of a life cannot see the world peaceful? What a LOSER!

  45. If you think about it, if Ukraine is forced into a peace deal soon, Russia needs to mantain its war economy and might feel they have to go to war to prevent economic collapse.

  46. How does Russia even have the resources for this?

  48. Next Danish intelligence will warn us about COVID-19

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