Europe faces ‘total’ Russian occupation without Ukraine’s army, Zelensky says

https://kyivindependent.com/europe-could-face-russian-occupation-without-ukraines-army-zelensky-warns/

by BothZookeepergame612

16 comments

  1. Absolutely, right now only Ukraine has a seasoned military, with real hands on war experience.
    Ukraine has fought the Russians, NATO has no experience.
    Zelensky has an effective strategy, that has worked against a much bigger military.

  2. If this goes as Trump wants it, we need a true European army. And cooperation with the US will be greatly diminished. Shame on the US. Shameful behaviour.

  3. Love Ukraine but not sure about total Russian occupation . The poles , Sweden and Finland wlone would be a humiliating battle against Russia right now . Throw in every other country I think Russia not going anywhere

  4. Hogwash. After 3 years, russia has taken about 20% of Ukraine, lost land in Kursk lost thousand and thousands of men, tanks, and vehicles etc. The Black Sea fleet has been neutralised.
    Russia will struggle to beat Poland, especially when it gets all the equipment it is buying.

  5. More on this subject from other reputable sources:

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    – France 24 (A-): [Ukraine prepared to swap territory with Russia in peace negotiations, Zelensky says](https://www.france24.com/en/europe/20250211-ukraine-prepared-to-swap-territory-with-russia-in-peace-negotiations-zelensky-says)
    – wionews.com (C+): [Ukraine 'may be Russian someday', says Trump ahead of envoy Keith Kellogg's meeting with Zelensky](https://www.wionews.com/world/ukraine-may-be-russian-someday-says-trump-ahead-of-envoy-keith-kelloggs-meeting-with-zelensky-8710008)
    – BBC Online (A-): [Trump speaks to Putin and says negotiations to end Ukraine war to start ‘immediately’](https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/c4g97971rwnt)
    – Der Spiegel (A-): [A “long and very productive” phone call: Trump calls Putin and announces “immediate” Ukraine negotiations](https://www.spiegel.de/ausland/trump-telefoniert-mit-putin-und-kuendigt-verhandlungsbeginn-an-a-fa7faa0e-8b35-453b-8169-f9d462deebb0)

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  7. IMHO, relatively to 2008-2024 years USA decision at least part of American establishment want such, “WW2 repeating”, scenario. Not understanding, or rather not wanting to understand, that modern USA almost completely lost, and just cannot return, 1940s competitive advantages. Foremost in technologies and demographic.

  9. It would be very interesting to see Swedish A19 subs go up against the Russian Baltic fleet.

  10. Can’t make this up. It seems the desperation is setting in.

    Truly think negotiating in first few months of the war would’ve been the best outcome, very sad they were pushed into an un-winnable conflict

  11. It’s ok Europe wants to be occupied. They say it’s ok and better

  12. It’s nonsense. But communication wise a great warning for people that think Russia will leaves us alone.

    It’s clear that as long there is a battle in Ukraine Europe is safe. It’s a shame most people don’t understand this.

    It would be cool that Europe would step up it’s aid and maybe releasing the Tataurus. It feels like Russia is really running out of steam and if we can prologue the ‘Trump gamble’ it could be very costly for Russia (Russia is Al about unexpected collapses).

  13. That’s quite an exaggeration, frankly. They don’t have the might to get through Poland, let alone everything else. 

  14. Fill ukraine with european weapons until they tell us to stop break russias back in ukraine make them collapse on the war they started….or starts training your kids for military service

  15. This sub is full of western propaganda – ridiculous amount of it. The only way Russia would need us is for trading oil and gas. Ukraine story started with Lenin in 1920s and I will end this year, hopefully 🙏

  16. Agreed, at the very least, parts of Europe. At the end, it will be full world war, we can see it coming and we are still sleepwalking in Europe.

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