A bus driver was sacked after CCTV footage showed him urinating in a bottle and throwing it out of the window of a moving bus. The employee was dismissed following several incidents including reports of using his mobile phone while driving.
The claimant, Mr Appiah, was fired in March 2024 and made a claim for an employment tribunal three months later, stating he was unfairly dismissed. The staff member received a complaint from a passenger about his driving from a journey in January 2024.
The report said: “On viewing the CCTV, [Stagecoach London] noted a number of incidents of poor driving, including the claimant picking up his mobile phone, taking both hands off the steering wheel to zip up his jacket and reading his duty card all whilst the bus was in motion, amongst other instances of driving with one hand.”
The bus driver reportedly did not dispute what his employer claimed to have seen on the CCTV footage. He said that he had picked up his mobile phone to stop it from falling, and he did not consider that as using his phone. Mr Appiah was suspended after the incident and a disciplinary hearing was held the next month.
The report added: “On asserting that picking up the mobile phone was a one-off incident, Mr Lathey agreed to view the CCTV footage for a period before and after the incident to establish if that was correct. On viewing the CCTV footage, Mr Lathey saw the claimant urinate in a bottle whilst the vehicle was in motion and then throw the urine out of the window.”
Mr Appiah reportedly resigned following a short break during the hearing. He claimed that his union representative and Mr Lathey pressured him to do this but this was said not to be relevant to his claim for being unfairly dismissed.
While throwing it out the window isn’t acceptable behaviour and they should be punished in some manner. They really need to address this requirement for people who need to be in vehicles for lengthy amounts of time without guarantee for break. I get they do have toilets here and there for bus drivers but are all routes equipped?
The one plausibly sympathetic fuck up makes the headline, not him using his phone at the wheel or driving erratically
They should just make buses that run on piss, thus solving the problem.
Was on the 141 the other week and the driver simply walked off towards a council estate leaving the door to the buss and driver seat open. He returned a few minutes later and just kept on driving. This was in the middle of the day but all power to him if there’s no effort putting in some bathrooms along the routes.
He was clearly a terrible driver and was going to rely heavily on his union rep to find a way out for him. Whether they watched that recording or one chosen at random they wouldn’t have found anything different. This was a tribunal so this guy had already been through three disciplinaries and given warnings; probably retrained too. He’s shot himself in the foot over and over and made things worse for himself.
No idea why he couldn’t just keep it in his bag and then put it down the toilet
Toilets are **actually** designed for waste, it’s their primary purpose
These cretins that say, “you shouldnt really do that”, are theoretical buffoons, more interested in style over substance
How can it be worse to flush it down the bog, than throw it away where it has the potential to be a bio hazard for some poor b@sterd??
Not supporting his actions. However, the lack of public toilets in London is so strange!!!
did he get fired for pissing, or littering?
People need to pee.
Perhaps they should be issued suits like in Dune
Idea: if you’re wearing a bus driver outfit you can walk into any pub and have a slash, unimpeded.
You should be able to anyway, but that’s not the issue.
Any problems? I suspect the big one would be leaving a bus full of passengers. Don’t know how to solve for that.
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A bus driver was sacked after CCTV footage showed him urinating in a bottle and throwing it out of the window of a moving bus. The employee was dismissed following several incidents including reports of using his mobile phone while driving.
The claimant, Mr Appiah, was fired in March 2024 and made a claim for an employment tribunal three months later, stating he was unfairly dismissed. The staff member received a complaint from a passenger about his driving from a journey in January 2024.
The report said: “On viewing the CCTV, [Stagecoach London] noted a number of incidents of poor driving, including the claimant picking up his mobile phone, taking both hands off the steering wheel to zip up his jacket and reading his duty card all whilst the bus was in motion, amongst other instances of driving with one hand.”
The bus driver reportedly did not dispute what his employer claimed to have seen on the CCTV footage. He said that he had picked up his mobile phone to stop it from falling, and he did not consider that as using his phone. Mr Appiah was suspended after the incident and a disciplinary hearing was held the next month.
The report added: “On asserting that picking up the mobile phone was a one-off incident, Mr Lathey agreed to view the CCTV footage for a period before and after the incident to establish if that was correct. On viewing the CCTV footage, Mr Lathey saw the claimant urinate in a bottle whilst the vehicle was in motion and then throw the urine out of the window.”
Mr Appiah reportedly resigned following a short break during the hearing. He claimed that his union representative and Mr Lathey pressured him to do this but this was said not to be relevant to his claim for being unfairly dismissed.
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Taking that to tribunal, what a piss taker.
While throwing it out the window isn’t acceptable behaviour and they should be punished in some manner. They really need to address this requirement for people who need to be in vehicles for lengthy amounts of time without guarantee for break. I get they do have toilets here and there for bus drivers but are all routes equipped?
The one plausibly sympathetic fuck up makes the headline, not him using his phone at the wheel or driving erratically
They should just make buses that run on piss, thus solving the problem.
Was on the 141 the other week and the driver simply walked off towards a council estate leaving the door to the buss and driver seat open. He returned a few minutes later and just kept on driving. This was in the middle of the day but all power to him if there’s no effort putting in some bathrooms along the routes.
https://www.gov.uk/employment-tribunal-decisions/mr-k-appiah-v-lea-interchange-bus-company-ltd-t-slash-a-stagecoach-london-6003209-slash-2024 lol
Good lord…. did he forget cctv on the buses.
He was clearly a terrible driver and was going to rely heavily on his union rep to find a way out for him. Whether they watched that recording or one chosen at random they wouldn’t have found anything different. This was a tribunal so this guy had already been through three disciplinaries and given warnings; probably retrained too. He’s shot himself in the foot over and over and made things worse for himself.
No idea why he couldn’t just keep it in his bag and then put it down the toilet
Toilets are **actually** designed for waste, it’s their primary purpose
These cretins that say, “you shouldnt really do that”, are theoretical buffoons, more interested in style over substance
How can it be worse to flush it down the bog, than throw it away where it has the potential to be a bio hazard for some poor b@sterd??
Not supporting his actions. However, the lack of public toilets in London is so strange!!!
did he get fired for pissing, or littering?
People need to pee.
Perhaps they should be issued suits like in Dune
Idea: if you’re wearing a bus driver outfit you can walk into any pub and have a slash, unimpeded.
You should be able to anyway, but that’s not the issue.
Any problems? I suspect the big one would be leaving a bus full of passengers. Don’t know how to solve for that.
way of the road bubs
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