Europe stepping up to replace US support to Ukraine in response to Putin-Trump Pact

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by 2AvsOligarchs

49 comments

  2. **Every** large country in Europe joined together in this statement.

    this is very promising

  3. Calling Americans allies still is the first mistake. Eastern Europeans and Germans have to wake up.

  4. Don’t call US and ally, they are not an ally anymore.

  5. now lets see some actions

    some weapon deliveries to Ukraine, some ammunition, unrestricted use of everything that Ukraine gets from EU, maybe some defense systems…

  7. Finally! Exactly what Ukraine needs—more statements. Maybe later we could get some proposals, analyses…

  9. Also time to pull away from purchasing american weapons and investing more in eu systems.

    Was there ever such a mutual anti american sentiment in europe… Finding trump and elon more repulsive then putin atm will actively avoid all american made products in daily life

  10. We are stepping up **verbally**.

    Let’s wait to see actions, something we lack so far.

    Not tiny steps, bold moves with “or else…” included, not just hopes and prayers that everyone will play nice.

  12. Do you know what would bring some additional weight to this? A hundred or two Taurus missiles.

  13. Looks like an expression of deep concern
    Looks as usual…

  14. Would it finally be time to get the military material support flowing and then production up to refill the stockpiles before ruzz recovers.

  15. And suddenly, Europe will start purchasing European made weapons and slowly migrate away the US made, and the work will leaving more and more of the rural US. Really giving it to the man

  16. I’m all for it, but talks dont matter. Actions are needed. Ukraine produces 35% on it’s own, the US delivers 35% of the weapons, Europe delivers 30%. Only 20-25% of the weapons Ukraine receives from the European Union are actually produced in the EU.

  17. Good news! We support the Ukrainian effort for freedom! 💪🏼

  18. How many statements like that we made before? What stopped us from enhancing the support before?? I am really getting tired of these right words in the wrong time. Seems like Ukraine doesn’t trust our words either, so they are already negotiating with the Americans without Europe.

  19. Good start. Now further ramp up arms production and make work of that european army.

  20. Ukraine is Europe, and Europe is Ukraine – this should be the Union’s stance, and the support must never cease. The USA would never accept one of its states being attacked, and in the same way, Europe should not hesitate when our neighbor is in need.

  23. That seems promising. However, I’d now like to see what sort of actions they’re planning on taking now.

    At least I am confident that they will not needlessly escalate the war.

  24. not religious but, doamne ajuta in romanian. I hope we unite. eventually all world must unite but right now, i hope Europe as a whole unites.

  25. For the first I do feel somewhat patriotic – for the unity in pluralité. I hope this statement isn’t just words

  26. Enough being “stunned” at the US decisions. Europe is on it’s own now. Time for action, time to stick together and take care of ourselves.

  30. Honestly, I want to see all European armies just march into Ukraine and throw the Russians out. Stop at the border, never threaten Russia itself.

  32. EU should start military exercises in Poland and Romania.

  33. But we need to do something, prepare for a potential war, producing loads of equipment for Ukraine, and so on.

    Can’t keep being neutral or pacifist if getting attacked

  34. talk is cheap. Where are the Tauruses? Help Ukraine defend itself, and we should ramp up our weapons production. Russia already spends almost half a trillion on defense. We can do better for our bloc and our allies.

    And let’s accept Canada into the EU!

  35. Id really like to see this happen, Ukraine is (even as a Brit) our ‘backyard’ it’s in our interest. Even the periphery.

  37. The work I’m doing seems so pointless at this stage of history. I wish it becomes easier to contribute in a meaningful way to the European cause in the future

  38. Talk is cheap, are we ready for war? If we’re not, a strongly worded declaration means nothing

  39. To begin with is to drop sanctions against Iran on conditions they don’t deliver drones to russia.
    Let’s surprise old fart and his warm buddy Bibi.
    Begin direct negotiations with China on Ukraine war

  41. Then when will the rest of Europe will do as de Gaulle did and kick the US army bases out ? Or are we waiting for an attack by Russia and the soldiers inside not moving to do something about that ?

  42. Spain and Italy, signing that, is beyond a joke, they have done fuck all compared to most other EU countries to help Ukraine, if you look at per capita spending on aid.

    Even if not looking at per capita, a country of 6M (DK) has spent more in aid/military aid, than both Italy and Spain combined (48M+58M population), not just a little, but spent double as much.

    [https://www.ifw-kiel.de/topics/war-against-ukraine/ukraine-support-tracker/](https://www.ifw-kiel.de/topics/war-against-ukraine/ukraine-support-tracker/)

  43. The process of replacing the US started more than a year ago.

    Currently, the UK, France, Germany, Italy, Poland, and other countries are creating a new military alliance to handle its own security and support Ukraine. This alliance will be formalized in coming weeks after the elections in Germany.

    It will be a big surprise for the US to realize that they lost their leadership in the EU.

    If we take a look at the situation from this point of view, the EU will be less reliant on the US. The EU will be able to require many US companies selling goods on the EU market to pay taxes in the EU and to bring the production to the EU.

    Also, the EU can benefit from taking the neutral position in the future war between the US and China in exchange of stop supporting Russia, for example.

  44. I’m so embarrassed by country in not part of this statement (NL)

  45. Europe shouldn’t have been in the position to STEP UP. Europe should have been the primary support for Ukraine in the first place. It is too late now. Too many people died. A union with far more people and money than Russia was afraid to really help Ukraine.

  46. Europes new enemy list: Russia, China, USA, Right-wing parties who support Putin.
    Dear Europeans: Don’t buy anything from our enemies.

  47. Europe should have been leading the way the entire time since it’s a European conflict but like every war in the past hundred years they have had to have the US fund supply and in most cases win the wars for them

  48. You know small countries can actually keep Ukraine armed with the basics

    1-3 million artillery shells is only 1-6 billion.

    That is less than 1% of the GDP of Belgium

    If Luxembourg went hard core cold war levels and did 5-6% of GDP that could supply all artillery shells.

    I say this because if pro Ukraine governments really do have to make choices the “basics” are not expensive.

    Yea the patriot missile and the other anti air stuff is crazy expensive, but the shells that cause like 60-80% of Russian casualties are not.

  49. Now that Europe is being left out of peace negotiations for a country in Europe, they’re stepping up? Why not 11 years ago

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