Trump kept Germany’s Scholz in the dark about his Ukraine peace plan

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1. Submission Statement: To the surprise of no one, the Trump Administration has ignored Europe’s appeals for an equal seat at the table at Trump and Putin’s 21st century Yalta summit. The fate of Ukraine and Europe is in the hands of the superpowers again, just like at that fateful conference nearly a century ago.

   Commentary: Trump sees Zelensky and European leaders as weak, and thus feels it not necessary to include them. The same goes for Putin, who believes that they are all mere satellites of the United States and thus not worthy of inclusion at the big boys table. Both strongmen have promoted the theory that Zelensky is not a legitimate president.

2. This is probably unpopular but Scholz might be even more incompetent then Trump and SPD is going to loose a bunch of seats in 10 days. He would be better off talking to Merz who will most likely be in charge in a couple days.

3. How is that surprising?

   Weak, lame duck chancellor that is waiting to be replaced in a few weeks is in no position to make any decisions and on top of that he got unpredictable in the recent months.

   Europe is weak, headless and couldn’t do anything serious about a war in its own doorstep for the past three years. And I’m saying that as a European whose country borders both Russia and Ukraine. I don’t even think my government is doing enough but western Europe did literally nothing.

4. more like he distracted Germany and other allies with a bunch of nonsense to continue his clandestine and corrupt and nefarious plans with Putin

5. It might irk Europeans but they don’t matter as much to Americans as they like to sometimes think. Specially when they cling on to NATO like desperate housewives while Trump taunts them like on a daily basis. Respect is earned, in Trump’s eyes, they are a sideshow.

6. Why does Europe feel entitled to being included in negotiations when Europeans have proven themselves unwilling and unable to commit to Ukraine at a level that would impact the outcome of this war? “B-b-but it’s our continent we live here!!1” you aren’t acting like it’s yours with the way you approach military.

   The very reason *why* Trump is in the driver seat of negotiations and not Europe is because Europeans ceded all their geopolitical power to the Americans. This is a consequence of refusing to become energy independent and refusing to become militarily formidable. It’s the same thing that happened in the fall of Afghanistan- the Afghan national government wasn’t included in the peace talks because the afghan government had proven itself uninfluential and irrelevant.

   I’m sorry Europe but you only have your own leaders to blame. How do you expect people in Ohio and Wisconsin to care more about Ukraine than the Germans, Portuguese, and Belgians?

7. Trump wants to hog the spotlight. Hopefully Macron, Starmer, et al. open up their depots further to Ukraine in response

8. I mean… Germany has repeatedly ignored America pleas to fund NATO and are one of the biggest contributers to funding the Russian economy even after crimea.

   They have funded Ukraines defense minimally compared to the US and the UK as well

   Their horrific foreign policy is what has decimated Ukraine. Why should they be involved in peace negotiations?

9. He did the same with the whole afgan fiasko dealing with the taliban of all people… People still havent learned it seems.

10. If you have to beg for a seat at the table, you never deserved one in the first place. Europe’s reaction has been beyond pathetic. Literally saying “we demand security guarantees for ukraine!!!” while ignoring the elephant in the room that nothing is stopping them from giving those out themselves at any moment if they actually wanted them.

    If they were truly serious people they could cut the US completely out in a heartbeat. All they would have to do is announce that Europe will replace any aid removed by the United States, and publicly pronounce whatever “guarantees” they’ve been demanding from the US will instead be enforced by Europeans. They have not, and will not. Obviously.

    They’ve had 3 years to prepare. And they’ve done absolutely nothing. Making a bunch of artillery shells is about 1% of the actual effort that would be required to sustain a country like Ukraine against a country like Russia indefinitely. All they’ve done is make speeches, symbolic gestures, pat each other on the back, and continue to parasite off of the US. They are not serious people on any level.

11. The Ukraine conflict and Yugoslavia Wars share significant economic disruption patterns, though with distinct characteristics. While both conflicts caused substantial economic damage, the Ukraine war has demonstrated more severe and widespread economic consequences. Both the main event sufferers are/were Europe Economy & Who Gained?

12. Yeah, that’s what authoritarians do.

13. I just don’t understand Trump’s plan. All Ukraine has to do is say “no” to the deal, and let us in Europe keep up the war effort. We aren’t some kind of American vassal state like some pro-ruskies claim.

14. It’s good that American leadership finally stopped pretending that the opinions of European leaders matter to anyone

15. Trump’s concept of a plan

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