‘We will soon be next’: German leaders sound alarm on Trump’s Ukraine plan

https://www.politico.eu/article/scholz-trump-merz-ukraine-russia-putin-united-states-germany/

31 comments

  2. “What is needed now is a coalition of the willing in Europe that is prepared to do everything possible to support Ukraine and invest massively in its own security.”

    …You needed to do that at least three years ago.

  3. Typical German approach. React only if things start to escalate

  4. What’s sad is how we are now trapped in a world where we need to spent a shitload of money to protect ourselves against crazies, instead of investing this money on research, education, healthcare, etc. I look forward to the day that Putin and Trump will not be on this world anymore.

  5. > Scholz, whose Social Democratic Party (SPD) is in third place according to polls ahead of a Feb. 23 national election, called for more spending on Germany’s defenses and military aid for Ukraine, and urged conservatives to relax the country’s strict spending rules — a theme he has touched on repeatedly during the election campaign.

    No, you must make a choice between guns and butter. You must be able to sell that now is the time to spend on guns, that this is existential to the nation.

    If you cannot make a coherent argument to the German people why supporting Ukraine indefinitely is existential to Germany, why are you the leader of your party? Why are you in politics?

  6. We should have started this in 2014 but Merkel and Scholz were just sitting on their thumbs doing not enough. The rest of Europe as well. We Europeans need to unite our Armies and Budgets now and stand our ground against this shit. It’s embarrassing.

  7. This is the tough world where there are people like Putin and most russian leaders through history and super egoistic people like Trump and Elon Musk. It only shows the sane world whereever those countries may be situated in the world that we just need to join as one, keeping checks on eachother and togheter stand up against evil. Only then can we resolve are future building on respect, sustainibility and prosperous future.

  8. Europe needs to defeat Russia immediately. Start moving troops, yesterday. The defeat of Russia will be a net good for the world.

  9. He realized this today? Every peasant with healthy brain not eaten by fascist propaganda knew that this is possible scenario but western “leaders” realized and sound alarm today.

  11. Nazi America is letting you know they’re gonna do bad shit, don’t waste this precious time to prepare. Trump ain’t joining around. He’s a POS and there’s lots of POS’s in America to keep him in power.

    This isn’t a bug, it’s a feature.

  12. Yeah, but no one will care since AfD will be already in power by then 😵‍💫😵‍💫😵‍💫

  13. I wonder if he has changed his stance on sending Taurus now?

  14. And meanwhile, while all of this determined talk of military spending is going on, the world continues to sleepwalk towards a climate catastrophe.

  15. NATO needs to be able to fight without the US.

    Europe already has two nuclear powers (if you count the UK), and needs to be ready and willing to fight to protect itself.

  17. Should have sent the weapons along, Olaf. Reap what you sow.

    Hope Merz goes all-in on support to help Britain and France replace the American support.

  18. These are the same leaders, that knew, that if trump was going to win, this would happen. Still they choose to not do even close to enough. Now they act suprised…. Europe finally needs to wake the fk up and truly unite against russia and not rely on the US for security any longer

  19. 2029: The Bundestag debates furiously if they can lift military spending to 3% as Russian bombs devastate Dresden.

  20. All of the European countries need to operate as if NATO is over (because it is), admit De Gaulle was right all along, and start their nuclear program yesterday

  21. Is there not an over reaction here? Ik Russia would love to attack and stuff but what if they don’t

  22. Why is the far right German party happy with Trumps unilateral move ?

  23. As usual, nothing will be done. Cowards all around.

    Europe isn’t avoiding war, they’re just postponing their turn in the fire..

  24. Living in the fear bubble ain’t healthy.. Scholz didn’t even say the headline. It was kiesewetter from the CDU. I gotta get my algorithm changed. Reading all that means we should do the suicide or whatever…

  25. Germany should be more than able to fuck Russia’s military up 10 times over but they choose not to have a military because they are cowering behind America. Its embarrassing. Germany and the rest of Europe need to grow some balls for their own sake.

  26. I am more worried about getting stabbed in the back than about being able to deal with Russia tbh. I believe Russia Europe can tackle if staying united (ok, already first big if), but that will fail quickly if the US tries to break the EU and hurt European economies to gain more control and enforce its will to a Trumpian/Musk oligarchy.

  27. I am being dumb or something but why does Trump get any say in this, yeah he is giving a lot of money/weapons etc but surely he can’t hand over part of Ukraine without them actually agreeing to it

  28. > German leaders were caught completely unawares by the Trump administration plan

    Either this is an amateur theatre group, or the leaders of my country are even more naive and careless than I thought. It has been crystal clear that Trump would set this course, so we had at least three months, but in reality one year to prepare for this scenario.

    But as usual we‘ve been caught pants down in the bushes again.

  29. America has been a loose cannon for a long time. the fascism was hiding in plain sight.

    4 million killed in Vietnam, with no threat to the USA. many coups and interventions in south and central America, always supporting oligarcy, and the expense of everyone else.

  30. You know it’s bad when Germany thinks you’re Hitler.

  31. Can the rest of the world collectively dump the U.S. and Elon musk?

    Just cut off all engagement and forge new alliances and trade pacts. Be done with the U.S. as a partner.

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