Kyiv, EU alarmed by prospect of ‘dirty deal’ after Trump-Putin call. Zelenskiy: we will not accept agreements made without us. EU foreign policy chief: ‘a quick fix is a dirty deal’.

by Lion8330

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  3. “Hey Putin, how about you take the east, we’ll take the west, we meet in the middle, sign a non-aggression pact and do 1939 again!”

  5. History tels us that you cant make a deal or whats so ever with ruzzia, they go there own way. So to secure peace you have to invade ruzzia totaly and start from there.

  6. He’s not negotiating a peace plan. He’s negotiating to get something out of pulling military support and lifting sanctions. He doesn’t give a shit what Ukraine does or what happens

  7. A quick fix is a dirty deal.

    What have they been doing for the last 2 years? Biden started this war with his rhetoric, and Europe has been slow playing the whole situation the whole time. Pretending to help. So did the Biden administration. They were playing the Ukrainian people so that they would be cannon fodder to the Russian arms. Now Hundreds of thousands are dead on both sides, some territory has been wrestled away from one side or the other, but Biden wouldn’t even allow Ukraine to defend themselves without restraint. But you love him….

    So 1.5 million casualties later a new President comes in and wants to talk….Horrors….The real reason is that the European powers don’t want the war to end, they can blame their economic problems on the Russians, on the Americans, on anyone but themselves because they are socialist.

  8. I really don’t see why Ukraine should accept anything that is agreed without Ukraine taking part in the discussions, anything else is a Putin stitch up, if Trump goes down that road, the peace agreement will last about three minutes, once the ink has dried the Russians will be on the attack again.

  9. will the policy chief actually make a policy decision in response? …no?

  10. Idk who think you can sign a peace deal without involving 1 of the 2 nations at war. It’s not a “peace deal”, “dirty deal” is a better name, but really if he lets Putin go away with it, it’s a “war deal” that’ll show all countries of the world they can do the same and walk free.

  12. Of course it is a dirty deal.

    Europe must take over negotiation mediation immediately

  13. Hey keep fighting, just do it without United States resources. Costs too much, best of luck.

  14. Europe and Canada need to tell Trump to fuck off. We have the ability to combine our forces, our economic and industrial input to deal with the threat from Russia if the political will is there. Leave Trump to his tantrums and tariffs . The rest of the developed world can trade amongst ourselves to offset the worst of it .

    If the United States wishes to be a pariah state then so be it, the rest of us will stand up for what is right .

  15. Trump is pulling an Afghanistan move on Ukraine; instead of Taliban it’s Putin.

  16. Zelensky isn’t stupid even though trump thinks he’s naive but trump can’t end this war without Ukraine involved in the peace talks between US/Russia. Because he knows fully well Ukraine has to be involved in order for them to read the conditions of what’s involved in the peace process from Russia side and if it smells like BS. They won’t accept, Putin is using trump to force zelensky to surrender Ukraine to Russia so Putin can rename Ukraine into something in Russian to erase their existence. Zelensky knows he’s in the right to continue fighting, knowing NATO won’t accept any peace plan agreement accepted by only US/Russia without Ukraine involved. Trump just wants to piss off NATO to screw them over by allowing Putin to take Ukraine and to allow putin to threaten to invade Europe starting with Poland, trump wants ww3 to happen so he can tell Europe their on their own and when ww3 does happen in the future he’ll just deflect the blame onto Biden for no reason….

  17. Zelenskiy may as well tell both trumpty and pooTin to get fucked. This is a worse case scenario, other than complete surrender. The world, according to trump, is just so fucked.

  18. You know what would be a quick fix ? Give Ukraine a few hundred Taurus , don’t limit the range an let them target airfields and refineries. Russia will want peace in less than a month .

  19. US has no right to negotiate anything in a continent they dont belong to. Simple as that.

  20. The Europeans and Ukrainians are free to sign or *not* to sign an agreement Trump and Putin come up with.

    Since the Trump-US does not intend to participate in any peacekeeping scheme, the Europeans should be ready to ignore any potential deal limiting numbers and equipment not to their liking and drag Putin into a second round of negotiations, with every concession made to Trump as set while pushing new demands.

    And Ukraine should decide what to sign and what not to sign. Will be a tough decision with a traitor in the West’s ranks so it will require true Machiavellian genius. Get the best deal possible.

    Trump can sign up on not sending US forces and he can even sign up on vetoing Ukraine’s NATO accession, but to make a valid international treaty, he would have to bring it through congress.

    Europe will indeed have to become strategically independent. Do it!

  22. Well. You allowed illiterate cockroaches to vote and they “made happy” rest of world. with their vo(te)mit. Maybe it’s best argument why illiterate cockroaches shouldn’t be able to decide on so important things…

  23. Poland, UK, France, Baltics, better get ready. We will need you soon.

    Hopefully germany will then finaly once again awaken and show their strenght. For the purpose of defeating fascism this time.

    And maybe the chicken shit ‘leaders’ will find the safety of joining the war. Because we are at war. Already.

  25. The EU nations are right to be alarmed. Donald Trump will be fine with a dirty deal selling out Ukraine for his own interests and those of Vladimir Putin. Then he will declare peace and walk away.

    I say this as an American who has watched Trump closely for years.

    It is time for European nations to ramp up their defense spending and increase lethal aid to Ukraine.

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