Miliband vows to ban fracking permanently after huge UK gas field discovered

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1. I wonder why we’re poor.

   No one has managed a mythical low energy high prosperity economy.

   Nor can anyone bind a future government from not reopening this issue.

   Had we wanted to tackle climate change, the time was 25 years ago. At this stage, we’re better served at migrating the worst effects, and building up secure borders etc., for when order breaks down elsewhere.

   No one else is indicating an approach remotely serious to resolve the issue so us continuing to alone is pissing in the wind and being surprised when our trousers are soaked.

2. Best we import from other countries than move towards a semblance of energy security.

3. Not one comment about how fracking is an environmental disaster?

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5. It’s not better for the environment to extract this shit from somewhere in the world AND have it shipped here. LNG uses MORE energy to cool the gas down for practical shipping. That’s even WORSE for the environment. Can we stop with this utter foolishness and use the energy we have right here? What is wrong with our leaders? I’m so sick of this bullshit virtue signalling that does nothing but make us poorer. All the while the unaffected elite get to pretend they’re making a difference!

6. Use our current resources and reserves to then invest more in renewable sources without us going broke trying to do it .. it’s common sense and we are already ahead of most countries in renewables

7. I’d be more than happy for them to spend all that investment as long as it not from my energy bill.

   There is no fracking gas.

8. As with all things trust nothing that is put out by the Torygraph. They only have their financiers best interests at heart.

9. My experience of working in the o&g industry is this, ALL gas extraction requires fracking. Fracking per se is not a bad thing. What is controversial is fracking of unconventional o&g sources. Banning “fracking” depends on what they mean by fracking – what source are they fracking. Banning all fracking means the end of cheap north sea gas for our homes, banning unconventional fracking means banning a source of o&g which is expensive and work heavy to extract.

10. Is this sub run by telegraph headline writers? Just stop this nonsense

11. So I’m pretty sure that the general analysis is that fracking is not a viable option in the uk. This all essentially comes down to geography, nothing else.

12. Itt: morons that don’t understand tracking polutes water and causes earthquakes + will not make energy supplies more secure

13. Good, absolutely no sense in burning the floorboards to keep the house warm. 

14. For anyone saying we should frack Google Flint Michigan and watch the documentary Gasland.

    You’re all for fracking unless it’s near your house and loses all of its value.

    Also it’s already been stated by said foreign companies it won’t lead to lower gas prices for the UK.

15. This discovery only has 10 years worth of reserves, what’s the point in setting up all the drilling and processing and major environmental damage that fracking causes when none of the profits will go to local people. Just leave it there if we need it in the future.

16. No government can permanently ban anything.

    They can prevent it only as long as they hold office.

17. fracking pollutes and causes earth quakes.

    You wont see any of that money

    leave the gas be

18. Doesn’t matter if we went ahead and fracked it, it wouldn’t change the price of our gas at all. Unlike other countries we let the private corporations take it and sell it back to us on the international market.

19. Fuck telegraph. Why do people even read that rubbish?

20. And is he in a position to do that? Or just grandstanding

21. Okay but my gas bill is craycray high.

    What about microfrackles?

22. Torygraph nearly as bad as the Daily Fascist, sorry I mean Fail …. oh the rise of Fascism

23. This dude is going to leave us all to freeze so he can feel good about using green energy.

24. This is a total non-story that means literally nothing….

    No parliament can bind the hands of any future parliament. The next government could -if they chose- remove the ban.

    SO

    Either it’s a resource saved for later OR it’s a resource we don’t need.

    Where’s the “risk”?

25. Isn’t it amazing how the telegraph, day in day out, find all these (unobserved by every other publication) juicy snippets about the current government yet one short year ago, *for the fifteenth year in a row*, were positively myopic with any even slight mishap by the previous regime *of which there were soo many it beggared belief*

26. I’m fully aware of the environmental risks of this but to not utilise this is just stupid. No matter what happens we will be using non-renewable energy for the near future. That’s just the truth. We may as well produce it here than import it from somewhere else. Especially when you consider the jobs it will create.
    I’m far from a conservative or a climate change denier but I think it wouldn’t be very clever to ignore this, we have to be realistic about the global situation as well as our own situation at the moment, and we won’t be transitioning to renewables in the near future, and neither will the rest of the world.

27. Here’s a myth some people will believe. Exploiting fracking reduce energy bills. It does not.

    Shale gas will be sold into the international market rate. Only the companies than extract the gas profits and a bit of that goes to tax receipts and pad our gdp. But will not materially affect the people.

    We can do more to reduce our energy bill. More insulation drives, reduce vat on energy saving tech, solar, heat pumps, ev charging. Upgrading the grid

28. I mean god forbid we could benefit from our own natural resources and have cheaper energy

29. > A spokesman for Mr Miliband said on Friday

    Of course he did. Is this unnamed spokesman in the room right now? Why is the article saying Miliband, not “Unnamed Spokesman”.

    Ed said a lot of things before the election. £28 billion green investment anyone? But Labour have adjusted their policies based on the conditions they have.

    > The waning North Sea can provide only a fifth of this, meaning Britain will be reliant on foreign imports to account for the remainder.

    The Telegraph pretending that we get North Sea gas for below market prices so it will make a difference.

30. Fuck fracking , just increase taxes on high earners, the UK doesn’t need gas

31. Miliband can’t “permanently ban” anything. Another government can always come along and undo the ban

32. Starting to think Miliband is actually a deranged sociopath.

33. Fracking in Lincolnshire just isn’t forward-looking at all, is it?

    Let’s just put all technological and climate change progress on hold so we can pump some gas from underneath Boston… sounds great!

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