German defense minister says Vance speech in Munich ‘not acceptable’

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/german-defense-minister-says-vance-speech-in-munich-not-acceptable/

by Affectionate_Cat293

48 comments

  1. Are you going to do anything about America’s impudence?

  2. Not acceptable? It was a declaration of war.

    Will Germany and the rest of Europe do something to save it’s democracy from foreign influence on social media or just capitulate?

  3. Then give him a non-grata letter and kick him out of the country.

  4. Yeah.. this was something.

    I really hope that this is the final wakeup call and people start to pull their heads out of their asses.

  5. Declare a state of emergency and radically increase defense procurement. It’ll make Germany more independent and give it’s struggling industry a much needed dose of military Keynesianism.

  6. It’s not just unacceptable. It’s pure shit. And yet, the EU still won’t take their heads out of America’s ass. Close Ramstein and Sigonella now!

  7. Not acceptable indeed. But what is Europe going to do about it?

  8. This is what drives me insine with the statements made by European leaders: Trump is “out of place”, Vance’s speech “unacceptable”, Putin’s war on Ukraine is “unfair”, Bibi’s leveling Gaza is “excessive”. Watcha gonna do about it? Act and stop pretending to be offended. It’s just painful to watch.

  10. europe – we are on our own. let’s just make that clear and come to accept that now.

    You have the vice president of the US visiting Germany and telling the germans – “I won’t meet your prime minister because he’s not going to be prime minister for long” (as a threat to Germany, and as a promotion to AfD – A russian backed and financed party).

    Let’s deal with this mess, show america how it’s done.

    If america doesn’t want to help us – that’s okay. But why do we still give them a platform to shit on us?

  11. Misinformation.

    The minister called a comparison unacceptable. Not entire speech.

    And Vance was right about one thing: Europe is rife with ethnic conflict and radical right is gaining popularity over immigration topics. Mainstream is like “shut up don’t talk about it lalalalalaalal not listening ur hitler”. Voters see that mainstream is basically Jonestown and is turning to alternatives.

    Unless recent kerfuffle with AfD voting wasn’t a thing.

  13. I expected news like USA leaving NATO and cutting all military support and 25% tariffs to Europe and how much he likes Putin but instead he did talk about irrelevant things.

  14. Well they’re going to have to accept it because he’s delivered it now.

  16. Yeah it’s not a pretty picture when someone lays it all out is it. Now in addition to a big part of the electorates here they can lash out at a big part of america too. Like a little child whose fantasy was just shattered.

  18. EU countries should work together as per US model. Each country like a federate state, combined economy, army etc. EU wants to survive? With almost 500m people living in it, vast resources it can be a super power. It just needs the appropriate leaders

  19. I don’t understand fellow Europeans. We spend so much of our energy that we don’t have battling immigrants who do not want to become European. The citizens know this, they are tired, they do not want these immigrants but somehow we elect people who allow them to come in and then ask why the alt-right is winning? Because anything left of the alt-right will NOT address the fucking problem. You can tell me it’s not a problem but it clearly is according to people. We are all tired. We over-regulate everything and we over-sensitize everything. We have virute signaled for 4-5% of the population for the past decade without doing the things they want and shutting the fuck up and continuing fixing other issues.

  20. Is it unacceptable to tell the (inconvenient) truth?

    I think this was a very good speech!

  21. If he wants to see authoritarianism in action and attempting to take over democracy, look no further than the US of A for a good example. The courts are barely keeping the leader there in check and what happens when they decide not to follow the direction of the courts 🤷‍♂️ revolution or a new Russia.

  22. Vance: Europe does not accept free speech.

    Minister: Vance’s speech is not acceptable.

    Lol. Can’t make this up.

  25. Reading some of these comments about telling US to bugger off: We need US for as long as EU is unable to unite and organise ourselves.

    Trump has until then to take advantage of treason on allies. Putin will play along with Trump for as long as he knows he can get a certain something from it.

    The problem is Trump *most likely* has only 4 years to do his treason and profit from it, and he knows it. In bureaucracy and administration, that isn’t a long time.

  27. This is not acceptable

    *continues as normal and accepts it*

  29. “Not acceptable”, “wake up call”

    I’ve been hearing these words for years coming out of EU, and still barely anything was done. I will believe it when I see it.

  30. Europe has 0 strong leaders. I liked Vance’s speech. Many people in europe think like that but are afraid to say it.

  31. An Islamist drove his car into 26 people in Munich today and this is what you concern yourself with?

  32. US and Russia has been the main drivers causing disruption in Africa and The Middle East. Now they both support European Right wing parties. Classic way of taking control, cause a problem and then offer a solution.

  33. The most ridiculous part for me, out of so many, is the concept of reciprocity when US allows China to ban US tech companies and services in China.

    Cherry on the 💩🍰 is the announcement Trump not only wants Ukrainian minerals, not only wants to chop up a sovereign country attacked – but would like Putin to rejoin G8. 🤯

  34. The best answer is not to answer but to act. As much as I would love that , we as Germany and Europe can’t do really do that. I just hope we get to really pull our shit together and not depend on others. I know it’s easier said than done.

  37. Meanwhile in the US, trump bans people for saying felon or Gulf of Mexico….. maybe he should get his own house in order before telling others what to do

  38. What elon, trump and Vance et al don’t realize is that people outside of the gaslit and brainwashed magats in the US are not stupid. His speech was transparently bullshit and condescending. Of course they all saw through it. Meanwhile, the magats in the US can’t understand why they didn’t see his genius insights…

  40. Musk’s Vice-president’s Vice telling western EU nations that we have a democracy problem is some advanced level trolling.

    The part about not contesting election results was specially ironic.

  41. I think European leaders are hoping the rhetoric doesn’t match the policy, and honestly, it’s a false hope. Y’all need to divest as much from the US as possible.

    He wants to turn America into a hermit empire at this point. You start from that understanding

  42. Look, the Trump administration will do anything to weaken Europe and the EU.

    Why? Because it’s a lot easier to exploit small individual countries rather than a strong alliance & union.

    Don’t let any of this BS fool you and remember there are millions of Americans NOT brainwashed who support us in the fight against this lunatic administration.

    Come on Europe! 💪❤️

  43. Unite Europe. Stop buying weapons from USA. Shut down X. Trade more with China. Invest in weapons from Europe.

  44. Vance gave me the impression he was speaking for the average maga voter in order to beat into them more the idea that the judicial system is bad and must be destroyed.

  45. As an American and former member of the military, I apologize. This administration sucks and the fact that our VP went on stage and criticized the people of Europe and labeled you as a “threat” is impermissable.

  46. The US is now a rogue and hostile state. It’s high time the remaining civilised countries in the West face up to that fact and start treating them as such.

    Denial won’t do anyone any favours.

  48. The US VP questioning European democracy is something else. Clear attempt at undermining democracy in Europe to plan for further fascist takeover. We should respond to the US with more than just words really.

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