well, luckily the infograph was nice enough to provide a source, which is eikipedia dog meat. i found the following there:
>In 2012, the Swiss newspaper Tages-Anzeiger reported that dogs, as well as cats, are eaten regularly by a few farmers in rural areas.[250][251][252] Commercial slaughter and sale of dog meat is banned, but farmers are allowed to slaughter dogs for personal consumption.
>In his 1979 book Unmentionable Cuisine, Calvin Schwabe described a Swiss dog meat recipe, gedörrtes Hundefleisch, served as paper-thin slices, as well as smoked dog ham, Hundeschinken, which is prepared by salting and drying raw dog meat.[253]
>It is illegal in Switzerland to commercially produce food made from dog meat.[254]
Just because it’s technically still legal in Switzerland, I seriously doubt that there’s “significant dog meat consumption”
What’s up with people making up rankings like this?
It’s not technically illegal to eat your dog/cat here in switzerland, but saying that it’s something significant is just a lie.
It isn’t a problem because it doesn’t really happen, at least nowadays, so it never got addressed.
There was a restaurant near me where they had the idea that you could go there, adopt a cat, and then eat it. But since people here aren’t complete monsters it went nowhere and closed down.
The one thing that really bothers me in switzerland regarding dogs specificaly, is that outlawed or “list dogs” are different in each canton. While in Wallis you are forbidden to own a Pitbull Terrier, you can have one in Uri.
We like our hot dogs authentic!
Every day a dog, make your day a walk
we have some of the best ratings…until we’re hungry apparently (no idea who eats dogs here)
Spain is above Switzerland on that list even though Spain has a serious stray dog problem
So what’s worse about eating dogs and cats than pigs and cows?
#Appenzell
Maybe an unpopular opinion, but I think it’s a good thing dog meat consumption is legal.
We are a free country where everybody should be allowed to do what they want and as long as it’s not commercially I don’t see a problem. What really is the difference from eating beef or chicken to eating dog, some people might find dogs too cute to eat but that shouldn’t hinder somebody else from doing it.
I never heard anything of eating a dog in switzerland but according to that graph we do…
Must be one of the worst graphs I’ve read this year.
Even the scale of the Points makes 0 sense.
What’s up with Switzerland? What the hell is happening with the UK being so up in the charts? They have prohibited some dog breeds and have no issues in euthanize them whenever something goes wrong. Forget about educating people, they’ll only look like dictators. Let’s just forbid some breeds, people will have them anyway and then we kill the dogs. Not very dog-friendly imho…
Yummy
Yeah thats total bullshit, never happens here
In Appenzell there is a tradition of eatint dogs
In Appenzell the people really eat dogs… It’s legal to eat but not to sell.
The indication on that strange chart is very exaggerated.
The ban on obtaining and offering dog meat results for Switzerland from Art. 2 of the EDI Ordinance on Food of Animal Origin of November 23, 2005. However, the ban only applies to commercial traffic; Collection and consumption for personal use are permitted as long as there is no violation of animal welfare legislation.
That being said, I am confident that in rural areas someone eats a dog from time to time, but claiming that as “significant” is a vast overstatement.
I would love to see the weighting that went into this chart that allows Italy to trump Switzerland while only scoring better on pet hotels and having formally banned dog meat consumption….
Legal =/= significant count of occurances.
Its a fallacy assumption. Aka whoever made this doc should receive complaints over errors like this.
One of my cat disappeared when I was teenager. Word on the street, he has been eaten. He was 8 years old.
He was a sweet friend. Now I keep my cats in the flat. It depresses them a bit to not be among nature. But it’s like imagining a member of my family being eaten.
And guess what. In many European countries, inlcuding Switzerland, people also eat horse and rabbit meat.
The attitude that four animal species are appropriate meat sources (chicken, pig, cattle, sheep) and consuming any others to be barbaric is anglocentric nonsense.
It‘s legal up to a point. AFAIK, only the owner(s) can eat the dog or the cat. You can‘t invite guests, you can‘t offer it to anyone else and you can‘t sell it. And to be fair, if anyone wants to eat their cat or dog, where‘s the difference to eating a pig?
Yesh thats bullshit we may eat your moms pussy but no dog meat…
Aside from the question of dog meat consumption, I have to laugh at the idea of France being more dog-friendly than Switzerland. We’re dog owners and our last stay in Marseille was a nightmare. In many cases we couldn’t go to the sea, to restaurants, to shops, which in comparison have never been an issue in Switzerland. And the way that people behave with dogs was so often plain bad. After two days, we decided to head back home earlier and enjoyed a couple brilliant days in the sun, just by a lake instead. Maybe Marseille is an extreme case, but so much for the rankings.
Sidenote: in Italy, we found a supermarket where dogs are allowed in… that was a new experience. Maybe it’s more common there?
Oh shit, they told me it was Rindfleisch!
Yea, where the fuck do we eat dogs?!
I think this chart is absolute bulmshit
Where the F do they eat dog meat here?! Is it something other cultures do here?
There was recently (few years ago) a case of illegal cat meat traffic in Jura. There were also some cases (but less recently) scandal cases of finding cat meat labeled as rabbit (apparently it is almost indistinguishable, except by analysing bones shapes, this is why rabbits are are mostly, always?, sold with the head not cut off). But I never heard anything about dogs.
Every country has some law weirdos. Yes, technically, it is legal to eat cat and dog meat. But traffic, selling or buying cat/dog meat is illegal. So basically you’re only allowed to eat animals you own.
Where is the line of pet and working animal anyway
The fact that Italy is number one means that this whole study is bunk. I’ve been backpacking through Italy numerous times and the abandonment of dogs and use of dogs as “yard dogs” is more prevalent than anywhere I’ve ever seen.
Apart from the eating dog thing, I found that here in Tessin it’s a not very dog friendly for big dogs. In Lugano there are only 2 “wide” dog parks and unleashing them in wild areas is technically forbidden. Maybe it’s because there is a lot of cattle around and most people have gardens for their pets? Or because big dogs are still considered more working animals for cows/sheeps than pets in many parts Switzerland ? Is it better in Zurich, Geneva or Bern? This is just an impression though, and a genuine curiosity, not a judgment. I moved here 9 years ago from Milan and I found it very difficult to find places where my drahtaar could have his daily one hour free run, while in Milan I had 3 parks at walking distance from my apartment. In Engadina it was better.
The grading system is stupid. We beat italy in almost every category but because some peasant in Appenzell still eats dog meat, we’re all the way down the list?
There is no significant dog meat consumption in Switzerland. You want to pick out something we do that they think is weird in a lot of other countries, it’s that horse meat consumption is very widespread. There are probably also still farmers in the very rural regions of the country that eat cats. I grew up in a very backward and rural region, and while we had the occasional cat disappear, I’m not aware of anyone who ever ate a dog. That doesn’t mean it never happens, but it certainly isn’t “significant”.
I also think these distinctions are arbitrary and dumb. I grew up with cats and dogs and we didn’t eat them, but if you know anything about cows and pigs, they’re actually very social creatures and pigs in particular are just as intelligent as dogs, we’ve just decided as a culture that they’re milk and meat machines. Conversely, most people in India think we’re monsters for eating beef, and Americans would say the same about eating horse. It’s all cultural, it has nothing to do with the actual animals, just things we project on them.
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What the actual fuck!
well, luckily the infograph was nice enough to provide a source, which is eikipedia dog meat. i found the following there:
>In 2012, the Swiss newspaper Tages-Anzeiger reported that dogs, as well as cats, are eaten regularly by a few farmers in rural areas.[250][251][252] Commercial slaughter and sale of dog meat is banned, but farmers are allowed to slaughter dogs for personal consumption.
>In his 1979 book Unmentionable Cuisine, Calvin Schwabe described a Swiss dog meat recipe, gedörrtes Hundefleisch, served as paper-thin slices, as well as smoked dog ham, Hundeschinken, which is prepared by salting and drying raw dog meat.[253]
>It is illegal in Switzerland to commercially produce food made from dog meat.[254]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dog_meat#Switzerland
edit:sadly the original source is behind a wall https://www.tagesanzeiger.ch/schweiz/standard/schweizer-sollen-keine-hunde-und-katzen-mehr-essen/story/19945914
Just because it’s technically still legal in Switzerland, I seriously doubt that there’s “significant dog meat consumption”
What’s up with people making up rankings like this?
It’s not technically illegal to eat your dog/cat here in switzerland, but saying that it’s something significant is just a lie.
It isn’t a problem because it doesn’t really happen, at least nowadays, so it never got addressed.
There was a restaurant near me where they had the idea that you could go there, adopt a cat, and then eat it. But since people here aren’t complete monsters it went nowhere and closed down.
The one thing that really bothers me in switzerland regarding dogs specificaly, is that outlawed or “list dogs” are different in each canton. While in Wallis you are forbidden to own a Pitbull Terrier, you can have one in Uri.
We like our hot dogs authentic!
Every day a dog, make your day a walk
we have some of the best ratings…until we’re hungry apparently (no idea who eats dogs here)
Spain is above Switzerland on that list even though Spain has a serious stray dog problem
So what’s worse about eating dogs and cats than pigs and cows?
#Appenzell
Maybe an unpopular opinion, but I think it’s a good thing dog meat consumption is legal.
We are a free country where everybody should be allowed to do what they want and as long as it’s not commercially I don’t see a problem. What really is the difference from eating beef or chicken to eating dog, some people might find dogs too cute to eat but that shouldn’t hinder somebody else from doing it.
I never heard anything of eating a dog in switzerland but according to that graph we do…
Must be one of the worst graphs I’ve read this year.
Even the scale of the Points makes 0 sense.
What’s up with Switzerland? What the hell is happening with the UK being so up in the charts? They have prohibited some dog breeds and have no issues in euthanize them whenever something goes wrong. Forget about educating people, they’ll only look like dictators. Let’s just forbid some breeds, people will have them anyway and then we kill the dogs. Not very dog-friendly imho…
Yummy
Yeah thats total bullshit, never happens here
In Appenzell there is a tradition of eatint dogs
In Appenzell the people really eat dogs… It’s legal to eat but not to sell.
The indication on that strange chart is very exaggerated.
The ban on obtaining and offering dog meat results for Switzerland from Art. 2 of the EDI Ordinance on Food of Animal Origin of November 23, 2005. However, the ban only applies to commercial traffic; Collection and consumption for personal use are permitted as long as there is no violation of animal welfare legislation.
That being said, I am confident that in rural areas someone eats a dog from time to time, but claiming that as “significant” is a vast overstatement.
I would love to see the weighting that went into this chart that allows Italy to trump Switzerland while only scoring better on pet hotels and having formally banned dog meat consumption….
Legal =/= significant count of occurances.
Its a fallacy assumption. Aka whoever made this doc should receive complaints over errors like this.
One of my cat disappeared when I was teenager. Word on the street, he has been eaten. He was 8 years old.
He was a sweet friend. Now I keep my cats in the flat. It depresses them a bit to not be among nature. But it’s like imagining a member of my family being eaten.
And guess what. In many European countries, inlcuding Switzerland, people also eat horse and rabbit meat.
The attitude that four animal species are appropriate meat sources (chicken, pig, cattle, sheep) and consuming any others to be barbaric is anglocentric nonsense.
Im appezell wird halt gern gschlemmt
[This comes to my mind](https://youtu.be/02IePc2YkVI) every time someone brings this up on here.
Edit: grammar
It‘s legal up to a point. AFAIK, only the owner(s) can eat the dog or the cat. You can‘t invite guests, you can‘t offer it to anyone else and you can‘t sell it. And to be fair, if anyone wants to eat their cat or dog, where‘s the difference to eating a pig?
Yesh thats bullshit we may eat your moms pussy but no dog meat…
Aside from the question of dog meat consumption, I have to laugh at the idea of France being more dog-friendly than Switzerland. We’re dog owners and our last stay in Marseille was a nightmare. In many cases we couldn’t go to the sea, to restaurants, to shops, which in comparison have never been an issue in Switzerland. And the way that people behave with dogs was so often plain bad. After two days, we decided to head back home earlier and enjoyed a couple brilliant days in the sun, just by a lake instead. Maybe Marseille is an extreme case, but so much for the rankings.
Sidenote: in Italy, we found a supermarket where dogs are allowed in… that was a new experience. Maybe it’s more common there?
Oh shit, they told me it was Rindfleisch!
Yea, where the fuck do we eat dogs?!
I think this chart is absolute bulmshit
Where the F do they eat dog meat here?! Is it something other cultures do here?
There was recently (few years ago) a case of illegal cat meat traffic in Jura. There were also some cases (but less recently) scandal cases of finding cat meat labeled as rabbit (apparently it is almost indistinguishable, except by analysing bones shapes, this is why rabbits are are mostly, always?, sold with the head not cut off). But I never heard anything about dogs.
Every country has some law weirdos. Yes, technically, it is legal to eat cat and dog meat. But traffic, selling or buying cat/dog meat is illegal. So basically you’re only allowed to eat animals you own.
Where is the line of pet and working animal anyway
The fact that Italy is number one means that this whole study is bunk. I’ve been backpacking through Italy numerous times and the abandonment of dogs and use of dogs as “yard dogs” is more prevalent than anywhere I’ve ever seen.
Apart from the eating dog thing, I found that here in Tessin it’s a not very dog friendly for big dogs. In Lugano there are only 2 “wide” dog parks and unleashing them in wild areas is technically forbidden. Maybe it’s because there is a lot of cattle around and most people have gardens for their pets? Or because big dogs are still considered more working animals for cows/sheeps than pets in many parts Switzerland ? Is it better in Zurich, Geneva or Bern? This is just an impression though, and a genuine curiosity, not a judgment. I moved here 9 years ago from Milan and I found it very difficult to find places where my drahtaar could have his daily one hour free run, while in Milan I had 3 parks at walking distance from my apartment. In Engadina it was better.
The grading system is stupid. We beat italy in almost every category but because some peasant in Appenzell still eats dog meat, we’re all the way down the list?
There is no significant dog meat consumption in Switzerland. You want to pick out something we do that they think is weird in a lot of other countries, it’s that horse meat consumption is very widespread. There are probably also still farmers in the very rural regions of the country that eat cats. I grew up in a very backward and rural region, and while we had the occasional cat disappear, I’m not aware of anyone who ever ate a dog. That doesn’t mean it never happens, but it certainly isn’t “significant”.
I also think these distinctions are arbitrary and dumb. I grew up with cats and dogs and we didn’t eat them, but if you know anything about cows and pigs, they’re actually very social creatures and pigs in particular are just as intelligent as dogs, we’ve just decided as a culture that they’re milk and meat machines. Conversely, most people in India think we’re monsters for eating beef, and Americans would say the same about eating horse. It’s all cultural, it has nothing to do with the actual animals, just things we project on them.