‘I’m ready to put British troops into Ukraine’ Keir Starmer reveals ahead of peace talks in Paris

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1. To free up Ukrainian troops, or to enforce American terms?

2. Do not support the USA plans tell them too get lost and we Europe will sort this ourselves. i.e. Donald & Vance go to hell

3. This could be Keir’s Falkland Isles. But will he be Thatcher or Galtieri?

4. According to the Times “Starmer has also said that he’s “ready and willing” to commit British troops to Ukraine for peacekeeping purposes.”

   So that suggests UK believes there might be a ceasefire.
   Peace keeping on that border would be bloody dangerous tho, really wouldn’t want to be posted there.

5. It’s a nice feeling to feel proud and optimistic for once from my government.

   Slava ukraini 

6. I mean we have to be at this point. We know we can’t rely on America going forwards.

   I’d like to see more European leaders follow our lead on this, because what are we saying to Russia, China or any other country that’s hostile towards us in Europe if we let the continent be redrawn by Trump and Putin?

7. I think this is going the way of the USA negotiating such terrible terms Ukraine has to refuse. 

   The USA withdraws support because all trump sees is money. He doesn’t understand democracy, alliances, deterrent etc. 

   This allows him to leave with face because the Ukrainians wanted to keep fighting. 

   Europe can’t allow Russia to salami slice through Europe, and so troops are sent to Ukraine during whatever negotiated ceasefire.

   Then we all hold our breath every now and then for decades like south and north Korea.

8. Taking the lead and showing solidarity with Ukraine and Europe is the correct thing to do.

   Unfortunately, the US should no longer be considered an ally under the current administration. 

9. The whole of Europe needs to step up and be prepared to defend itself. It’s clear the US won’t do it.

10. We need to start a huge investment drive into our native and European weapons manufacturers. We have to be able to produce our vital armaments either by ourselves, or in cooperation with our European allies. Including the nuclear arsenal.

    We have to start detaching from the US. They’re too unpredictable. Too risky.

11. I can’t believe the states has turned its back on democracy and attempting to strongarm Europe while taking sides with the aggressor. Glad we’re standing up for Ukraine.

12. We definitely voted the right guy in. He is committing to Ukraine properl, standing up to russia. Even Trump has warmed to him, that is no mean feat! I mean, he is the Labour leader, the ideological opponent of the american republican party right now and trump has warm words for him.

13. I must stress that this is if Russia and America agree to a deal that Ukraine will accept, which it won’t. No one is putting troops in Ukraine with a war going on. This is to enforce a peace deal which won’t happen because Russia doesn’t want NATO troops in Ukraine.

14. Ok, and if Russia decide to retaliate and randomly fire a load of missiles at UK – do we actually have the capacity to repel an attack like that? Genuine question.

15. I’m sure all those in favour of this are in the middle of their army application?

16. Very dark times ahead I fear. British forces facing down Russian forces in Eastern Europe is something I genuinely never thought we’d see in our lifetimes if you’d asked me 5 years ago. A deeply depressing step but a necessary one in the event there is a ceasefire or if Ukrainian lines begin to collapse.

    On the practical side, a peacekeeping border force in Ukraine will need to be in the 100,000s range to be credible, if the borders are drawn where the lines are currently.

    Unless we are about to see a BAOR equivalent created on the Dnieper, where British serviceemebers and their families live for decades and spend their entire careers there, you are going to need a 4:1, 5:1 or maybe even 6:1 ratio on non-deployed:deployed personnel. Assuming Britain were to contribute 10000 combat soldiers to this, you’re talking maybe 60000 men and women required to field this force on 6-month rotations if they are based out of the UK.

    This is not remotely possible with the current British Army. Then factor in the equipment it’d need to have sufficient readiness and capability, you’d be looking at recruitment and rearmament drives the likes of which we have never seen in this country size nearly 90 years ago. Do we even remember how to do this?

17. One feels we might live to regret cheering this stuff on.

18. Turns out Starmergeddon wasn’t just a catchy nickname. 

19. If others in mainland Europe also have this in mined then I am all for it as long as we’re not alone. 

20. I hope you guys don’t send anyone to go die or get maimed in the drone wars. There’s nothing to be to gained

21. I think Starmer needs to lead by example.

    All these lefties are so willing sacrifice other people lives and push the world closer to WW3

22. > Sir Keir Starmer says he’s ‘ready and willing’ to put British troops on the ground in Ukraine, as part of security guarantees offered in any peace deal.

    Bit of an important detail that, LBC.

    Anyway I suppose this is a clever move. If a deal is coming, the chief concern is Russia invading again, which they’ll be less inclined to do if western armies are ‘keeping the peace’ (guarding the border).

    Trump can decline, but given that he’s constantly telling NATO to pull its weight that makes his actual concerns plain to see.

    However, say a deal does happen and we do place our troops in Ukraine. In 5, 10 years, will Trump’s America even still be providing a nuclear umbrella? Will NATO still even exist? If not, Russia might simply push us aside.

23. Then maybe actually up the fucking funding of our Armed Forces. Jesus Christ. I genuinely think Starmer gets too much shit for his time in office so far. He’s had to juggle some utter dogshit “foundations.” But shit like pussyfooting around with defence spending and the Chagos stuff is just making us look weak.

    Get on with it. We cannot rely on US defence anymore. Europe has taken things too lightly post WW2 and is now facing a threat that has been staring it in the face for decades.

24. Enough money has been spent on Ukraine, and fat keyboard warrior Redditors support sending troops because they’re not the ones on the front line.

25. Has anyone noticed the number of defence jobs available in the UK at the moment

26. Wonder how many mps have children who are serving in the armed forces

27. I’m just hoping this is for posturing to benefit Ukraine in the peace process

28. for fucks sake

    we should pull out, nothing to do with us

29. Identify and conscript all NIMBYs and send them to ukranian front line.

    UK unlocks housing and development.

    UK saves ukraine.

    PAX BRITAINNIA

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31. Peace talks: I’m deploying troops

    Am I missing something

32. Don’t know about u boys but I don’t particularly want to die in a ditch of mud because we couldn’t accept peace terms

33. Yeah, British boots on the ground. That sounds like “peace”.

    But, whatever, he won’t.

34. Fuck this. We don’t want to get into direct conflict in Russia. I support funding and arming the Ukrainians but sending our troops to fight Russia is not our job.

35. It seems odd to be uncapable of defending the borders of UK but being able to defend the borders of other countries.

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