So I went onto The Sun website (unfortunately) and found myself getting a cookie message, which isn’t unusual nowadays. But my only options were to accept cookies or PAY to reject… I’m almost certain websites are required to allow you to reject cookies, without it being locked behind a pay wall…
This has been the case for several months at least. As off yet this has not been dealt with the ICO.
Your first mistake was visiting the sun website.
A lot of news/paper related websites are like this now.
Sun isn’t the only one does it, a few do.
If you flipped it round and had a subscription only newspaper add a free tier which collects advertising info and shows adverts people would probably praise it for adding choice. I don’t think there’s anything wrong with a company trying to profit off its product.
A lot of these news websites have a paywall now.
Fucking Brexit
(The ability to choose to accept or reject advertising cookies was an EU thing that came in when we were still in it. Now we’re not in the EU, they can charge us for it. Another reason media like the Scum worked so hard to get us to leave.)
The Mirror does this as well.
Brave. Browser.
This has been the case for a long time and I always refuse to accept cookies.l and obviously would not pay
Use ad blockers then you can bypass that crap but the sun is just a load of crap
Copy the link to the story you want to read and paste it into https://12ft.io/ it doesn’t always work but often does
This is fairly standard across the board now, think it’s the same for the Mail and Mirror sites (awful as both those sites are)
By law you have to be able to withdraw your consent and then they can’t keep your data. So you can consent, read, then withdraw consent.
Mirror is the same
On Firefox I get past that with the Ghostery add-on, it works on a lot of sites (including the one above)
Many websites are like that
Safari > Hide distracting items. Done. Also works on Mail+ articles for free should you wish to destroy as many brain cells as possible.
You can either pay to reject cookies, accept cookies, or not visit. No law requires websites to allow free access to content.
Your choices are to pay for the journalism you want with actual money, or by accepting tracking cookies, or not read it.
Not so long ago, everyone was happy to pay a quid a day for the day’s news written by professional journalists. I just don’t get why it sends people into a complete flat spin when journalists ask to be paid for their work now. But here we are.
If you don’t want it, walk away and enjoy some bot-generated clickbait bullshit fake news on twitter instead.
The actual rule behind it is that data collection must be opt-in, which is why these buttons pop up so aggressively to make sure you’ve consented before interacting with the site. Nothing in the rules states that they must give you the option to reject at all, let alone reject it for free. They’re well within their right to refuse service entirely if you don’t let them collect your data, they just know that’d be suicidal.
I’d just immediately close any site that did this.
Also, fuck the Sun.
Fuck the Sun, obviously, but let’s imagine for a second that this was a website we don’t despise and try and be reasonable about it.
They’re clearly under no obligation to provide their content to you for free and I’m not sure why anybody would ever suggest otherwise.
If your only options were just “pay to view” or “leave without viewing” you wouldn’t question it.
All they’ve done here is add a third option “accept cookies to view.”
This is becoming very common, but I have noticed they are typically partisan tabloids that aren’t really worth reading anyways
If I get this message or I have to pay, I just leave.
Pop the headline In ChatGPT and rephrase it as a question specific to that headline and page and it will just cut and print it straight into the response
I’m not sure, but I think browsers can block cookies from designated websites.
OK. Novel take here and may be way off line… but it is their web site and they are giving you a choice,; give info or pay. You can choose 3 options…. the other is the best option, and leave.
It is not a public service. Thank god.
Someones already mentioned it, but Brave Browser.
ye they started doing this a while back. Thing is, they’re usually not an actual paywall, so if you know how you can just remove the element using a css selector in your ublock origin filter and still read the article.
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This has been the case for several months at least. As off yet this has not been dealt with the ICO.
Your first mistake was visiting the sun website.
A lot of news/paper related websites are like this now.
Sun isn’t the only one does it, a few do.
If you flipped it round and had a subscription only newspaper add a free tier which collects advertising info and shows adverts people would probably praise it for adding choice. I don’t think there’s anything wrong with a company trying to profit off its product.
A lot of these news websites have a paywall now.
Fucking Brexit
(The ability to choose to accept or reject advertising cookies was an EU thing that came in when we were still in it. Now we’re not in the EU, they can charge us for it. Another reason media like the Scum worked so hard to get us to leave.)
The Mirror does this as well.
Brave. Browser.
This has been the case for a long time and I always refuse to accept cookies.l and obviously would not pay
Use ad blockers then you can bypass that crap but the sun is just a load of crap
Copy the link to the story you want to read and paste it into https://12ft.io/ it doesn’t always work but often does
This is fairly standard across the board now, think it’s the same for the Mail and Mirror sites (awful as both those sites are)
By law you have to be able to withdraw your consent and then they can’t keep your data. So you can consent, read, then withdraw consent.
Mirror is the same
On Firefox I get past that with the Ghostery add-on, it works on a lot of sites (including the one above)
Many websites are like that
Safari > Hide distracting items. Done. Also works on Mail+ articles for free should you wish to destroy as many brain cells as possible.
You can either pay to reject cookies, accept cookies, or not visit. No law requires websites to allow free access to content.
Your choices are to pay for the journalism you want with actual money, or by accepting tracking cookies, or not read it.
Not so long ago, everyone was happy to pay a quid a day for the day’s news written by professional journalists. I just don’t get why it sends people into a complete flat spin when journalists ask to be paid for their work now. But here we are.
If you don’t want it, walk away and enjoy some bot-generated clickbait bullshit fake news on twitter instead.
[paywallreader.com](http://paywallreader.com)
Well, Sun readers voted for Brexit so no GDPR.
It’s not illegal, just shitty.
The actual rule behind it is that data collection must be opt-in, which is why these buttons pop up so aggressively to make sure you’ve consented before interacting with the site. Nothing in the rules states that they must give you the option to reject at all, let alone reject it for free. They’re well within their right to refuse service entirely if you don’t let them collect your data, they just know that’d be suicidal.
Transfermarkt does this too
[ublock origin, sorted](https://i.imgur.com/nHgQeQm.png).
I’d just immediately close any site that did this.
Also, fuck the Sun.
Fuck the Sun, obviously, but let’s imagine for a second that this was a website we don’t despise and try and be reasonable about it.
They’re clearly under no obligation to provide their content to you for free and I’m not sure why anybody would ever suggest otherwise.
If your only options were just “pay to view” or “leave without viewing” you wouldn’t question it.
All they’ve done here is add a third option “accept cookies to view.”
This is becoming very common, but I have noticed they are typically partisan tabloids that aren’t really worth reading anyways
If I get this message or I have to pay, I just leave.
Pop the headline In ChatGPT and rephrase it as a question specific to that headline and page and it will just cut and print it straight into the response
I’m not sure, but I think browsers can block cookies from designated websites.
OK. Novel take here and may be way off line… but it is their web site and they are giving you a choice,; give info or pay. You can choose 3 options…. the other is the best option, and leave.
It is not a public service. Thank god.
Someones already mentioned it, but Brave Browser.
ye they started doing this a while back. Thing is, they’re usually not an actual paywall, so if you know how you can just remove the element using a css selector in your ublock origin filter and still read the article.
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