Zelensky warns Ukraine won’t accept decisions made without them in peace talks

https://www.axios.com/2025/02/16/zelensky-putin-war-against-nato-trump

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  3. wow the country defending the war of aggression want’s to be included in the peace talk? Who ever could have predicted this (literally anyone with a moral compass)

  4. Gotta love that two fully corrupt governments are going to decide the future of security in the western democratic world.

  5. Caught between a rock and a hard place. Putin taking Ukraine by force and Trump taking it’s wealth and natural resources in a mob protection racket

  6. A lot of European countries have fought nazis before, Ukraine won’t be hung out to dry or blackmailed into agreeing something they don’t want.

  7. Why should they? Why would anyone participate in a deal that they aren’t involved with?

  8. He did the same BS in Afghanistan…. Negotiated with the Taliban and left the Afghan government out of it…. Then the rest is history. Art of the deal my ass….

  9. Trump is putins pawn. You will see who is really in charge before this is all over

  10. Trump betrays Ukraine and humilliates Europe.

    Is time for Europe to move away from the USA is basically a Russian puppet government. Is not a trustable ally by any meaning of the word, should be treated accordingly.

    BTW I hope the European and Canadian intelligence agencies are not sharing intel with the USA, everything the USA knows Russia knows.

  11. It’s so painfully obvious what’s going on here: **Trump is looking for an excuse to withdraw from NATO**. He’s going to be a bully, try to pick on people, and when he decides he has his moment, he’s pulling out. That’s what he and Putin will discuss.

  12. Ukraine will fight! No peace unless it is ukrainian peace.

  14. This is all part of their plan. Negotiate in bad faith with just the US and Russia, when Ukraine refuses the peace terms, use that as an excuse to escalate the war.

    Putin was planning on invading Ukraine in 2019/20, the military and troop build up along the Ukrainian border were identical in 2022, as they were in 2019/20, but then Covid happened. Had the pandemic not happened, Russia invades, Ukraine would have received no assistance from the US, in fact I said Trump would have put American troops on the ground to fight the “Ukrainian Nazi’s” (Putin’s claim).

    So Trump will claim Ukraine does not want peace, escalate and put US troops on the ground in Ukraine and Trump and Putin will carve up the country and the resources. This triggers the next authoritarian expansion, Russia takes the Baltics, US takes Greenland, Panama, maybe Canada, China invades Taiwan, Europe stands alone (the Red Dawn for the EU, someone should make that movie).

    All because the American electorate were stupid enough to put Cheeto Mussolini back in office, due to the price of eggs and their own ignorance.

    Democracy had a good run, but humanity is not capable of maintaining it. Eventually the authoritarian dictators get mad at each other, mutually assured destruction. The end.

  15. What insane world we live where they need do make this kind of statement…

  16. This is what trump did in Afghanistan. trump made a peace deal with the Taliban and went around the Afghan government.

  17. An easy way to freeze Trump out of the peace talks is simply to announce that Europe will be handling all the funding of the war and supporting Ukraine, and no US aid will be accepted. Then Trump has literally zero leverage, and will have no excuse at all to even be present in any kind of peace talks. It can be just Ukraine and Russia and whatever European partners Ukraine deems worthy. Poland and the baltic republics have been stepping up the plate in a big way.

  18. Ukraine and Europe need to tell Russia and The US to scram

  19. Ukraine shouldn’t have to accept terms if they’re not allowed to the peace talks.

    Also if Russia wants to fuck with other countries politics then why can’t we do the same with them? Let’s send them another Lenin to stir things up.

  20. You gotta wonder if part of this despicable action on the part of the Americans is Trump being desperate for a Nobel Peace Prize. Keep everyone else away so he can take sole credit for it?

  21. The grunts on the front line should negotiate for peace.

  22. It’s like history repeating itself: Czechoslovakia was also not invited to the talks before WW2, despite being the country directly affected.

    **Mnichovská zrada** (“Munich Betrayal”) is the Czech term for the **Munich Agreement of 1938**, in which Czechoslovakia was forced to cede its border regions (the **Sudetenland**) to Nazi Germany. The agreement was made without Czechoslovakia’s participation, leading to feelings of betrayal, especially by the Western powers.

  23. These aren’t peace talks between US and Russia. It’s a discussion to divvy up Ukraine.

  26. Step 1: Hold sham negotiations knowing full well Ukraine can’t accept the proposed terms.

    Step 2: Ukraine refuses

    Step 3: Try to shift blame on Ukraine and justify halting military aid

    Step 4: Profit

  29. Zelenskyy should offer Texas to Russia/Putin. It’s so easy to give away other people’s land.

  30. Smart man that Zelensky Trump trying to pull something.

  31. Trump literally doing a Chekoslovakia/Sudetenland on Ukraine.

    We all know that didn’t end with peace in our time

  32. Why anyone thinks that not having one of the belligerents at the table when discussing ending a war is a reasonable thing makes zero sense. It’d be like having Spain negotiate with the US for the Japanese surrender in WWII.

  33. Trump doesn’t care about the Ukranians any more than he cares about hardworking Americans or veterans.

  34. If russia decides to stop attacking and withdraw, would he keep attacking? I dont believe any negotiation will end with russia gaining land or anything from ukraine.

  35. Peace talks without all members of a conflict present is really a military meeting about how to divide the spoils of war.

  38. We have a Yalta-style situation where the larger powers make decisions from behind the smaller ones, last time it was the US that gave Russia the entire Central and Eastern Europe on a plate

  39. This is no advice from me and I couldn’t say if it would be feasible or even productive, but I would enjoy it so much if they could send drones over Moscow to drop zillions of old-fashioned airborne leaflets showing the extent of the human disaster for the Russian cannon fodder.

  40. TRUMP’S repeating the Munich Agreement of 1938. Did the moustache man back down after that ? No, he broke the agreement and inhaled most of Czechoslovakia (Most of it cuz , given the vulnerable time the Czechs and Slovakians were in, Hungary and Poland became interested in some territories.
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