Should we even bother talking about climate change?

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1. By the time America claws its way back from fascism (if ever), it will be very much too late.

   Remember, the planet is not dying, its being raped and murdered. And the people doing the raping and murdering have names and addresses.

2. Yes? As the article itself argues?

3. Honestly I believe its too late. Should we talk about it? Sure, but lets not pretend we are going to fix it. Climate change is an economic problem and none of the major CO2 producers (including US) wants to take the hit necessary to actually transition seriously to renewable energy.

   Id also make the argument that it doesnt matter which energy source we end up with, we are screwed anyway because it will still be destructive and polluting.

4. Hundreds of thousands of years Evolution and I’m being born when the ecosphere gets obliterated 

5. It still is worth it just there doesn’t feel like there is hope because the people in charge either deny its existence or would rather stuff their pockets and point the blame at trans people or immigrants.

6. Absolutely.

   Individuals need to step up.

   Transportation is a huge opportunity to reduce emissions. We need grass roots actions.

   1. Consumers need to consider fuel economy / operating costs when they buy their next vehicle.

   https://www.fueleconomy.gov/

   2. 50% of trips are under 5K. Walk, bike, take transit for some or all trips.

7. It’s about who controls the media spectacle and what message they are willing or unwilling to spread. The message framing I see is to ignore/minimize and make it a personal issue. Just like all our other problems. Any collective action would be “communism”.

8. At a global level, Trump has it in his head that the globe will buy oil and gas on US terms.

   My hope is that his actions are a catalyst encouraging further movement towards solar in particular…that “peak oil” will continue to inch closer and closer from its current estimate and come to pass during his presidency.

   It’s one of the few things I can think of that would kneecap both the MAGA movement and oligarch donors.

9. Honestly probably not things are already a word r/climate won’t let me use and nothing you or any of us average folk can do will change things. Half the population will just say it’s all fake news and liberal propaganda anyway.

10. yup.

    move on to other problems.

    nothing is going to happen while the globe is lurching right.

11. People were given a choice: lead slightly less comfortable lives, driving less, consuming less, and using less electricity or…. Sit back and watch the world burn.

    Humanity chose option B

12. I just don’t want people to be surprised, all I want to hear is, “oh, just like predicted, goodbye forever then, I guess!”

13. https://youtu.be/E5K5i5Wv7jQ?si=1R1UoTjTPVARVza7

14. We should be talking about specific policies and practices that help us mitigate the worst of climate change. 

    Talk about heat pumps, induction stoves, heat pump water heaters. All things that get your home away from natural gas. 

    Talk about how easy it is to own and drive an EV. Talk about how enjoyable and cheap it is to potentially replace a car with an e bike. 

    Talk about removing your lawn and renaturalizing your yard. 

    All of these things we are control of if we have the means to save up for it. 

    I think climate change is becoming a blanket term that nobody knows how to deal with. 

    Politicians who care should be talking about specific policies in addition to the individual stuff we can do as per above. 

    Talk about this stuff more!

15. >The climate movement has long debated whether to lead with hope or fear, optimism or doom. But according to the research, that’s not actually the key question we should be asking.

    >”We think of the dimension more as ‘relevant versus not relevant,’” explains Lu. “All the ways we can increase relevancy for people is where we’ll have much more success.”

    Personalized doom is just as relevant as personalized hope (for selfish people, who are probably the majority now).

16. I’m all over continuing to discuss it. I’m the hugest cynic around and know that the corporations that decide these things will not willingly do anything to assist us. But if no one ever talks about it, well they win completely, instead of just 99.99%.

17. Should move the conversation from climate change to climate survival. Say when the next heatwave kills tons of crops and people, how should we handle that? Since homes get flooded from hurricanes, do we stop building there or raise all home dwellings? As we lose our coral reefs, who will we sustain aquatic food life for all? Since we will have more forest fires that cause greater levels of damage, what steps do we take to mitigate that?

18. Every move we make should be within the context of repairing the damage we caused.

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