Ukraine war latest: Russia won’t accept Nato troops in Ukraine as part of any peace deal, says Lavrov – BBC News

https://www.bbc.com/news/live/c62e2158mkpt

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  1. More on this subject from other reputable sources:

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    – Foreign Affairs (B+): [The Kremlin’s Strange Victory: How Putin Exploits American Dysfunction and Fuels American Decline](https://www.foreignaffairs.com/russia/fiona-hill-putin-kremlin-strange-victory)
    – France 24 (A-): [Saudi Arabia hosts US-Russia talks, no seat for Ukraine](https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20250218-saudi-arabia-hosts-us-russia-talks-no-seat-for-ukraine)
    – stern.de (B-): [USA and Russia: Selenskyj does not recognize possible Ukraine deal](https://www.stern.de/politik/ausland/usa-und-russland–selenskyj-erkennt-moeglichen-ukraine-deal-nicht-an-35473872.html)
    – Politico (B+): [Ukraine will not participate in Russia-US talks, Zelenskyy says from UAE](https://www.politico.eu/article/volodymyr-zelenskyy-russia-us-talks-saudi-arabia-ukraine-not-part-negotiations/)

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  2. Thats ok, Ukraine wont accept Russian troops in Ukraine as part of a deal either.

    Whats to disagree about ?

    Borders were drawn decades ago, keep troops on own ground and all is perfect, right ?

  3. Russia is not serious about a peace deal, if NATO can’t be peace keepers, the entire idea of a ceasefire is ridiculous…
    This proves once again Putin is playing Trump for everything it’s worth.

  5. Because they want to rearm and take more in a few years!

    Russia can’t be trusted that has been proven!

    Keep the war going until Russia breaks!

  7. It is so obvious they just want a few years to rearm, then go for a full takeover of Ukraine again, but this time perhaps also the baltic states since orange guy might give them a greenlight that the US will not intervene.

  8. Nato troops means Russia can not go back on their deal in a few years. If not, they will rinse and repeat the same process until they get their objectives as long as they are left to their own devices.

  9. US has emboldened russia and now they feel like they can dictate the terms.

  10. Won’t Accept NATO Troops
    Won’t accept loss of Russian Territory,
    Won’t accept loss of gained territory.

    IMO the talks with the US will go no were. Ukraine isn’t Afghanistan. Even without US support Ukraine can actually defend itself. Yes it will lose territory little by little, but it will cost the Russian economy massive amounts of resources. It will require Ukraine at the table, and US just posturing all day and saying they are being uncooperative isn’t going to ease up on Russian casualties.

  11. Then the talks will fail and the war will go on. Trump might eventually try to strangle Russia by agreeing with his friend MBS to lower the oil price.

  12. He is in no position to demand anything. russia is collapsing.

  14. The Trump administration is going to flounder around trying to come up with a lop sided peace deal that nobody will respect or agree to. They will double down and remove support for Ukraine, which will force EU to step up, and the conflict will grow in intensity and danger for the world.

  16. What are NATO troops though? Can it be troops from countries individually that are within NATO?

  17. Lavrov can get bent. He already has NATO troops along his border in Finland.

  18. Perhaps Europe then needs to make Russia accept them as part of the peace deal. If Russia can bring in North Korean soldiers, Ukraine should have no issue bringing their own allied troops.

  19. The only security guarantee that Russia accept is: “Trust me bro 😎 “

  21. Watched the video. That is not the same tone as the other day. This sounds more like, “Orange daddy, we fucked up”. Very pleased that he said all parties, but then again, I do not trust anyone from the current USA administration.

  22. No territory concessions, no NATO troops, no Zelenskyy. russia won’t give up anything the war— that’s not how negotiations work. Seems like nothing will come of this.

  23. Making demands whilst simultaneously bombing civilians, carrying out genocide and kidnapping children. Russia sure is emboldened with their new US partners.

  24. It’s a bloody good thing we ain’t drawing up any peace deal then. The only deal I’d be happy with is the one where Russia gets the fuck out of Ukraine.

  25. They don’t have to accept it, it just needs to happen.

  26. If NATO troops were in Ukraine, he wouldn’t get to have a say in it anymore

  27. So what? Everyone else in Europe doesn’t accept Russias terms

  28. A proper EU response would be further sanctions asap and western troops in western Ukraine. Everytime that war criminal Lavrov says that is a red line, should be instantly countered by acts.

  29. Russia, the nation of donkeys on the front line, dictating their terms to NATO. What a joke. 🤡

  30. Well too fuckin bad let send em!! NATO can hold the western approach to Ukraine and allow the reserve troops protecting the north west and South west to join the fight.

  31. Then I would say Russia can keep sending men there to die.

  32. Russia acting like they are negotiating from a position of power. They can fool the babushkas, but the West knows better. Best outcome would be a total collapse of negotiations and allow Russia to collapse financially. They’re on the ropes. If we see a repeat of the fall of the Soviet Union, then the real possibility of returning Ukraine to their 2014 boundaries is a real possibility. End it on their terms and you can say goodbye to occupied territories.

  34. That’s so when they break the cease fire, they don’t accidently hit a NATO soldier and trigger their doom. They want to just hit small children and old women.

  35. Hey trump, if we break into one of your hotels, and occupy several floors, what peace deal conditions would YOU accept?

  36. NATO won’t exist or the US won’t be in it in a year at this rate. It is stupid to think the US would have any say in it

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